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VERY GOOD EVENING TO EVERYBODY. THE TIME IS 504. I WANT TO WELCOME EVERYONE TO A SCHEDULED STUDY SESSION FOR THE CITY OF COACHELLA. TODAY IS NOVEMBER 6 TO 2024. MR. DIRECTOR. TAKE IT
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AWAY, SIR. OKAY, GREAT. WE HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION AND HOPEFULLY SOME DISCUSSION.OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THANK YOU. CHAIR. MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SO THIS IS A STUDY SESSION REGARDING THE POSSIBILITY OF HAVING A COACHELLA HEALTHY FOOD TRUCK PERMIT PILOT PILOT PROGRAM IN THE CITY. AND THE BACKGROUND TO THIS AND WHY THIS IS BEFORE YOU TODAY. YOU MIGHT RECALL IN MARCH THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED AND RECOMMENDED TO COUNCIL APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE TO ESTABLISH SIDEWALK VENDOR REGULATIONS. SINCE THAT TIME, THERE HASN'T BEEN A LOT OF SIDEWALK VENDOR APPLICATIONS TO THE CITY. SOME OF THE CHALLENGES HAVE BEEN OBTAINING A COUNTY HEALTH PERMIT, AND SO THAT CAN BE CHALLENGING BECAUSE THE COUNTY HAS THEIR PARTICULAR REQUIREMENTS AND THE TYPICAL OPEN AIR TYPE FOOD SERVICE THAT YOU WOULD SEE WITH SOME OF THE SIDEWALK VENDORS IN THE PAST THAT ARE NOT PERMITTED TODAY. A LOT OF THAT HAS TO BE KIND OF IN AN ENCLOSED AREA. IF THEY'RE SERVING HOT PREPARED FOOD. SO THAT'S BEEN A CHALLENGE. YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO DO THAT, YOU HAVE TO GET A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT FROM THE COUNTY, WHICH I BELIEVE IS LIKE 90 DAYS. SO IT'S NOT CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. SO ONE OF THE EXISTING EVENT SITES IN THE CITY, THE COACHELLA CONTAINER PARK, DOES ALLOW FOR THAT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. SO WE THINK THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME OF THE SIDEWALK VENDORS TO BE ABLE TO SELL FOOD THERE, EITHER AS A FOOD TRUCK OR AS KIND OF THE FOOD VENDOR THAT'S UNDER A CANOPY. BUT WE ALSO THINK THE OTHER AVENUE WOULD BE FOR FOOD TRUCKS TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE. SO BASICALLY A FOOD TRUCK WOULD BE ABLE TO EASILY GET A HEALTH PERMIT FROM THE COUNTY. AND ESSENTIALLY THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED TO HAVE AT THE END OF THE DAY TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE. BUT WE DON'T ALLOW FOOD TRUCKS TODAY. FOOD TRUCKS HAVE ONLY BEEN ALLOWED WITH SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS. SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING THE MOBILE FOOD TRUCK PROGRAM ONE TO PROMOTE TO HEALTH. AND I'LL GO INTO THAT IN A LITTLE BIT. THE OTHER IS THE POSSIBILITY TO ENHANCE THE DOWNTOWN COACHELLA EXPERIENCE AS A DESTINATION. AND THEN LASTLY, TO CREATE A UNIQUE CULINARY EXPERIENCE IN COACHELLA FARMS, WHERE THERE IS LIMITED FOOD SERVICE AVAILABLE. SO NEXT SLIDE SHOWS YOU THE COACHELLA ENTERTAINMENT PARK SO THEY ARE APPROVED. VENUE. THIS HAS BEEN APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL TO HAVE REGULAR SPECIAL EVENTS EVERY DAY THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. AND SO THEY COULD HAVE FOOD TRUCKS OR FOOD VENDORS SUBJECT TO THEM GETTING HEALTH PERMIT. WE THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE PRIVATE ENTERPRISES THAT ALLOWS AN OPPORTUNITY. FOR VENDORS. BUT WE ALSO THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADOPT SOMETHING THAT IS RECOMMENDED IN THE GENERAL PLAN. SO THE CITY BACK IN 2015 WAS ONE OF THE FIRST CITIES TO ADOPT A COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS ELEMENT AS PART OF ITS GENERAL PLAN. AND SO, ONE OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WERE RECOMMENDED IN THE GENERAL PLAN IS TO ESTABLISH SOMETHING CALLED A HEALTHY FOOD TRUCK PROGRAM. AND SO THEY CALLED IT PLAZA VENDORS TO CREATE A SIMPLE, HEALTHY FOOD TRUCK PERMIT PROGRAM THAT ALLOWS FOOD AND BEVERAGE VENDORS TO OPERATE IN OR AROUND THE PERIMETER OF PARKS AND PLAZAS, SO AS LONG AS THEY MEET CERTAIN NUTRITIONAL REQUIREMENTS DETERMINED BY THE CITY. SO WE FOUND THAT INTERESTING BECAUSE IT'S NOT AN OUTRIGHT ALLOWANCE OF FOOD TRUCKS. IT DOES REQUIRE A CERTAIN REQUIREMENT THAT SOME OF THE OPTIONS BE BE HEALTHY. SO WHAT'S A HEALTHY MENU? AND WE DIDN'T WE HAVE WE'RE NOT NUTRITIONISTS HERE IN THE PLANNING DIVISION. SO WE REACHED
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OUT TO THE COUNTY RIVERSIDE UNIVERSITY HEALTH SYSTEM NUTRITION AND HEALTH PROMOTION BRANCH. AND WE TOLD THEM HEY WE HAVE THIS PROGRAM THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO IMPLEMENT FOR HEALTHY FOOD TRUCK PROGRAM. WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? SO YOU KNOW, THEY RECOMMENDED LOOKING AT THE AMERICAN HEART ASSOCIATION'S NUTRITIONAL STANDARDS, WHICH ARE LIMITS ON SATURATED FATS, TRANS FATS, SODIUM, AND ADDED SUGARS, AND THEN EMPHASIZING FRUITS, VEGETABLES, WHOLE GRAINS, LEAN PROTEINS AND LOW FAT DAIRY. SO THEY HAVE A STANDARD THAT THAT'S AVAILABLE THAT THAT WE COULD US. AND THEY RECOMMENDED THAT 50% OF THE MENU MEET THE AMERICAN HEART ASSOCIATION'S NUTRITIONAL STANDARDS. AND THAT THAT MENU WOULD ULTIMATELY BE APPROVED BY THE COUNTY WORKING WITH THEM. SO THEY'VE BEEN VERY HELPFUL TO TRY TO INITIATE THIS. THERE'S NO OTHER CITY IN THE RIVERSIDE COUNTY THAT HAS A HEALTHY FOOD TRUCK PROGRAM OR A CERTIFICATIO.AND SO WE THINK THIS IS UNIQUE, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE ARE GOING TO BE ENGAGING IN THE BLUE ZONES EFFORT, IF YOU MIGHT HAVE HEARD OF THAT PROGRAM. BUT THAT'S A PROGRAM THAT WOULD TRY TO PROMOTE BETTER HEALTH OUTCOMES IN THE CITY, WHERE THERE WOULD BE RESIDENTS THAT COULD LIVE LONGER LIVES, KIND OF LIKE LOMA LINDA'S, A BLUE ZONE COMMUNITY. SO THE ELIGIBILITY WOULD BE MEETING THAT STANDARD OF THE MENU, RIGHT? 50% ARE CONSIDERED HEALTHY. BUT YOU KNOW, PART OF THE PROGRAM WOULD CONSIDER TWO POTENTIAL OPTIONS. ONE WOULD BE TWO ZONES IN THE DOWNTOWN, WHICH ARE THE DOWNTOWN TRANSITION ZONE AND THE DOWNTOWN ZONING DISTRICT AND THE DOWNTOWN TRANSITION ZONE IS INTENDED TO BE A TRANSITION BETWEEN THE CORE DOWNTOWN ON SIXTH STREET AND THEN THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND SIXTH STREET. THAT DOWNTOWN TRANSITION ZONE DOES ALLOW FOR RESIDENTIAL, BUT ON TOP OF THAT, IT'S VERY FLEXIBLE. SO IT ALLOWS FOR COMMERCIAL, ALLOWS FOR RESTAURANTS. SO IF A HOME IN IN THAT ZONE DECIDED THEY WANTED TO CONVERT IT TO A RETAIL STORE, THEY COULD DECIDE TO DO THAT IN THE FUTURE, AND THEY'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS. SO IN THIS ZONE AND I'LL SHOW YOU WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE ON A MAP, THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE ONE FOOD TRUCK THAT COULD BE ALLOWED PER LOT. AND THERE COULD BE MORE THAN ONE FOOD TRUCK ON SITES THAT ARE LARGER THAN 11,500FT■!. AND THERE'S A TOTAL OF 18 TOTAL PARCELS THAT ARE EITHER DOWNTOWN, TRANSITION OR DOWNTOWN ZONE. AND THIS WOULD SPECIFICALLY BE AROUND THE VETERANS PARK. SO WHEN THE CITY WAS ENGAGING IN THE PUEBLO VIEJO REVITALIZATION PLAN, IT DID RECOMMEND ESTABLISHING THAT DOWNTOWN TRANSITION ZONE AROUND THE PARK. AND I THINK THE IDEA BEHIND IT WAS TO CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR IT TO BE A DESTINATION, LIKE AROUND THE PARK. SO. SO I'LL SHOW YOU THE MAP IN A SECOND. THE OTHER IS TO ALLOW FOR FOOD TRUCKS IN PARKS. AND WHAT THIS WOULD BE WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS NO MORE THAN TWO MOBILE FOOD TRUCKS. THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED STATIONED AROUND PUBLIC PARKS, BUT ONLY CERTAIN PUBLIC PARKS. SO IT WOULDN'T BE SPECIFICALLY ALLOWED AROUND VETERANS PARK. IT WOULD BE DATELAND PARK, RANCHO LAS FLORES PARK, AND THEN IT WOULD ONLY BE ONE FOOD TRUCK THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED IN SOME OF THE SMALLER PARKS, LIKE DE ORO PARK, SIERRA VISTA, AND THEN THE LIBRARY PARK, WHICH IS THE PARK BEHIND THE LIBRARY ON SIXTH STREET. AND THEN LASTLY, AND THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITY MANAGER, IS TO ALLOW A FOOD TRUCK THAT COULD EITHER BE IN THE CIVIC CENTER OR THE CORPORATE YARD IN THE INDUSTRIAL ZONE. SO YEAH. AND WHAT ARE FOOD TRUCKS. RIGHT. SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS THE CONCEPT. IT WOULD BE A MOBILE FOOD TRUCK LIKE THIS. IT CAN MOVE FROM, FROM PLACE TO PLACE. BUT IN THIS CASE IT WOULD BE STATIONARY AT EITHER A PARK OR ONE OF THE ZONES THAT I MENTIONED. AND THEN WE, YOU KNOW, TRY TO GET SOME IMAGES OF WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE ON THE FRONT YARD, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE LOTS THAT I MENTIONED IN THE DOWNTOWN TRANSITION ZONE ACTUALLY HAVE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON THEM. SO I, I TOOK ANOTHER PHOTOGRAPH OF A PLACE THAT WE VISITED IN SAN DIEGO BARRIO LOGAN. AND SO THEY
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HAVE EXISTING HOMES, BUT THEN THEY HAVE LIKE FOOD TRUCKS THAT THEY ALLOW IN THE FRONT OF THE HOMES, AND LIKELY BECAUSE THOSE PROPERTIES ARE ZONED COMMERCIAL, BUT MAINLY ON A COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR. SO WHAT ARE THOSE LOTS THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING? SO IF YOU LOOK ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN, THE PINK AREAS ARE CONSIDERED DOWNTOWN TRANSITION. AND SO THAT THAT ALLOWS FOR RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL USES. SO IT'S VERY FLEXIBLE. AND THEN IT WOULD ALLOW FOR THREE LOTS THAT ARE IN THE DOWNTOWN ZONE. SO LARGELY THOSE LOTS THAT ARE DIRECTLY SURROUNDING VETERANS PARK. SO I TOOK SOME PHOTOGRAPHS OF WHERE THESE LOCATIONS, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S ON THESE LOTS. SO SOME OF THEM EITHER HAVE LIMITED DEVELOPMENT ON THEM. A LOT OF THEM HAVE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ON THEM. ONE OF THEM IS THE HEALTH CLINIC ON FOURTH STREET. YOU HAVE MOSTLY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, BUT THEN YOU HAVE SOME HOMES THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME AVAILABLE LAND WHERE MAYBE THIS THIS COULD WORK OUT PRETTY WELL. AND THEN YOU HAVE THE TWO CITY OWNED LOTS WHERE I THINK THE CITY HAD AN ACTIVITY LIKE THIS IN THE PAST FOR FOOD TRUCK, LIKE A FOOD TRUCK PARK, AND THEN ON VINE STREET, YOU HAVE SOME LOTS WHERE YOU HAVE EXISTING DEVELOPED DEVELOPMENT, BUT THEY'RE MORE COMMERCIAL IN NATURE. AND ALL OF THOSE AROUND THE, THE, THE PARK. NOW, THE OTHER OPTION IS FOR, FOR THE PARKS THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER.AND THESE ARE THE PARKS SHOWN ON A MAP. SO JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE THOSE PARKS ARE. AND THEY'RE KIND OF DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT THE CITY. YOU MAY BE AWARE THAT RANCHO LAS FLORES PARK AND MAGNOLIA PARK ARE ONE OF OUR BUSIEST PARKS, AND SO WE ASSUME THAT WOULD BE POPULAR IN THOSE PARKS. THE SIERRA VISTA AND THE LIBRARY PARK ARE MUCH SMALLER PARKS IN THE CITY. SO WHAT THE ORDINANCE WOULD DO IS ESTABLISH DEFINITION FOR MOBILE FOOD TRUCK AND WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A HEALTHY FOOD TRUCK. AND IT'S MEETING THAT CRITERIA FOR HEALTHY MENU.
THERE WOULD BE OPERATIONAL REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE PROVIDED TO YOU IN YOUR PACKET. SO THERE WOULD BE REQUIREMENTS FOR MAINTENANCE OF THE AREA THAT THE FOOD TRUCK OPERATES IN. AND I THINK THE STANDARD THAT WE IDENTIFIED IN THE ORDINANCE WOULD BE THAT THE RESPONSIBILITY IS TO KEEP THE AREA FREE OF DEBRIS AND TRASH AROUND A DISTANCE OF 20FT RADIUS FROM THE FOOD TRUCK. ON SITE CONSUMPTION AREAS COULD BE ALLOWED SPECIFICALLY FOR THE DOWNTOWN TRANSITION ZONES. NO AMPLIFIED SOUND WOULD BE ALLOWED, NO SIGNAGE LIGHTS COULD BE PERMITTED IN THE LOTS AROUND VETERANS PARK ON THE PRIVATE PROPERTY, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE SHIELDED AND THERE WOULD BE SOME SAFETY AND LOCATION STANDARDS. SO BASICALLY THOSE STANDARDS WOULD BE THAT A MOBILE FOOD TRUCK WOULD NEED TO BE AT LEAST 15FT AWAY FROM A FIRE HYDRANT, UTILITY BOX, PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, EMERGENCY VEHICLE ROUTE, OR INTERNAL DRIVE. I'LL.
IT HAS TO BE AT LEAST FIVE FEET AWAY FROM ANOTHER MOBILE FOOD. FOOD TRUCK. AND THEN NO ALCOHOL WOULD BE ALLOWED AND THERE WOULD BE REQUIREMENTS FOR WASTE DISPOSAL, AND THEN THERE WOULD BE HOURS OF OPERATION, WHICH I'LL GO INTO IN A LITTLE BIT. THERE WOULD ACTUALLY BE NO REQUIREMENTS FOR PARKING FOR THE EITHER. THE PARK SITES OR THE DOWNTOWN AREAS. THERE WOULD BE A REQUIREMENT FOR A DISPLAY OF THE PERMIT TRASH RECEPTACLES, AND THERE IS A REQUIREMENT THAT THERE BE A RESTROOM AVAILABLE WITHIN 200FT. SO IF THERE IS NO RESTROOM WITHIN 200FT, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE A PORTABLE TOILET THAT WOULD BE AN EXECUTIVE PORTABLE TOILET WITH HANDWASHING STATION. SO AS FAR AS THE PERMIT DURATION, IT WOULD BE VALID FOR ONE YEAR WHERE THE FOOD TRUCK WOULD BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR A RENEWAL UP TO FOUR YEARS. SO THIS IS ESSENTIALLY A PILOT PROGRAM. AND THEN AFTER THE FOUR YEAR PERIOD, THE COUNCIL AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION COULD DECIDE IF THE PROGRAM SHOULD CONTINUE. THIS WOULD BE ALLOWED SEVEN DAYS
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A WEEK. THE HOURS FOR THE DOWNTOWN TRANSITION ZONE WOULD BE 5 P.M. TO MIDNIGHT. THE FOOD TRUCKS IN THE PARKS WOULD BE 5 P.M. TO 10 P.M. AND 10 P.M, ENDING END TIME WOULD BE BECAUSE THE PARKS CLOSED AT 10 P.M, AND THEN WE WOULD RECOMMEND AN ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL HERE. SO BEFORE I GO ON TO THE NEXT PART, I DID WANT TO SEE IF YOU ALL HAD QUESTIONS BECAUSE I THINK YOUR RESPONSIBILITY IS TRYING TO. IF WE WERE TO ALLOW A PROGRAM LIKE THIS, WHAT ARE THE WHAT ARE THE PARAMETERS WE'D WANT TO HAVE FOR THIS TYPE OF PROGRAM? AND ALSO IS THIS A PROGRAM THAT WE WOULD WANT TO HAVE IN THE CITY. SO YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE AS FLEXIBLE AS WE WANT IT TO BE OR IT COULD BE RESTRICTIVE. NOW, I DO THINK THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF RESTRICTION ALREADY IN TERMS OF THE MENU. RIGHT. SO WE'RE INCENTIVIZING FOOD TRUCKS TO BE ABLE TO OPEN IN THE CITY, BUT ON THE CONDITION THAT THEY HAVE MORE OF A HEALTHY FOOD TRUCK PERMIT. SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF FOOD TRUCKS. I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S A LOT OF FOOD TRUCKS THAT WOULD MEET THAT STANDARD TODAY, SO THERE WOULD BE SOME WORK INVOLVED TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. AND THEN WE'RE ALSO LIMITING THE LOCATION WHERE THEY COULD BE EITHER IN THE PARKS OR THE DOWNTOWN ZONE. AFTER THIS SLIDE, I'LL START TALKING ABOUT THE DATE FARM OPTION. BUT FIRST I WANT TO SEE IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PARKS OR THE DOWNTOWN. SO I HAVE ONE COMMENT AND OR ONE QUESTION. SO ARE ARE THE FOOD TRUCKS GOING TO BE COMPETING AGAINST SNACK BARS? WELL, THE RECREATIONAL SPORTS ARE ARE BIG. YEAH. AND THAT HAPPENS IN RANCHO LAS FLORES AND BAGUMA PARK. YEAH. AND SO ORIGINALLY WE WEREN'T CONSIDERING THAT FOR THIS ORDINANCE, BUT THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR THOUGHT, WELL, WE SHOULD PUT IT ON THE TABLE AND SEE WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL SAY. YEAH. NOW, OBVIOUSLY YOU WOULD PROBABLY GET SOME HEAT FROM THAT. MAYBE, PERHAPS. RIGHT. THE MAYBE YOU SHOULD CONSIDER THEM. BUT IF WE'RE, IF, IF WE DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD, I'D LIKE TO SEE THE FOOD TRUCK OPTION OPEN FROM THE TIME SPORTS ACTIVITIES STARTS, STARTS TO PLAY. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THAT IT STOPS OR STARTS. STARTS. IT STARTS. YEAH. SO LIKE IF YOU KNOW, YOU GOT A FIRST, YOU KNOW, KIDS ARE OUT OR YOU GOT PARENTS ON SITE AT 10 A.M, THEN WHY NOT? OKAY. VERSUS WHERE IT STARTS AT LIKE FIVE. YEAH. YOU KNOW YOU KNOW, I THINK THE IDEAS OF HEALTHY OPTIONS ARE, ARE REALLY COOL. I WAS A VEGAN AT ONE TIME IN MY LIFE IN SAN DIEGO, AND I WOULD FREQUENT THE A VEGAN FOOD TRUCK. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS INTERESTING IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS, YOU KNOW, 50 OVER 50 OF THE MENU BE HEALTHY, IT'S GOING TO BE MONITORING THAT RIGHT THEN TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE CARRYING WHAT THEY SAY. IT'S ON THE MENU.RIGHT. SO ARE WE GOING TO HAVE THE FOOD TRUCK POLICE MAKING OUR ROUNDS OR HOW ARE WE GOING TO MITIGATE THAT. YEAH, THAT THAT THAT PART IS, IS WHAT WE STILL NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MONITOR THAT. SO THERE ARE SOME YOU KNOW, WE ARE RECOMMENDING A FEE FOR THE PERMIT. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT FEE AMOUNT WOULD BE AT THIS TIME. BUT WHAT I'M RECOMMENDING THAT THERE BE INSPECTIONS ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE PROGRAM, STARTING RIGHT WITH THE FOOD TRUCK. THAT'S OPERATING, THAT THERE BE A SIX MONTH CHECK IN, RIGHT. AND THEN THERE WOULD BE A ONE YEAR CHECK IN, AND THEN THEY HAVE TO RENEW THEIR PERMIT. RIGHT. SO I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A GOOD INDICATION IF THERE OPERATING ACCORDING TO THE REQUIREMENTS. RIGHT. SO BUT IF YOU HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW THAT COULD BE ADDRESSED. WELL, YOU KNOW WE'RE DEFINITELY OPEN TO THAT. YEAH THAT WAS MY QUESTION TOO IS VOUCHERS. AND WE'LL GO. I WAS THINKING I'M PROBABLY GOING TO HEAR SOME OF IT FROM YOU, WHICH IS HOW YOU REGULATE THE HEALTHY MENU. IF IT'S 50%, 20% OR. YEAH. AND THIS THIS IS WHERE THE COUNTY COMES IN IN TERMS OF HOW TO FIGURE THIS OUT. RIGHT.
SO SOMETIMES THE FOOD TRUCKS DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MANY CALORIES ARE IN THEIR, THEIR ITEMS. THE COUNTY WOULD ASSIST WITH THAT. SO THEY WOULD DO AN EVALUATION OF THEIR MENU, GIVE THEM THE NUTRITIONAL INFORMATION ON ALL THE PRODUCTS THAT THEY HAVE. SO THEY WOULD GO THROUGH A PROCESS WITH THE COUNTY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. NOW, THIS MIGHT CHANGE. SO THE COUNTY IS ALSO
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SUGGESTING TO US THERE MAY BE A DIFFERENT BLUE ZONE STANDARD WITH THE BLUE ZONE PROGRAM THAT WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO PURSUE. THERE ARE CERTAIN LIKE BLUE ZONES CERTIFIED, LIKE RESTAURANTS. AND SO IT MAY CHANGE WHERE INSTEAD OF A 50% REQUIREMENT, IT'S CERTAIN LIKE BLUE ZONE CERTIFIED LIKE FOOD OFFERINGS VERSUS 50% OF THE MENU. AND THAT'S SOMETHING YOU COULD CONSIDER TO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE 50% REQUIREMENT FOR THE AMERICAN HEART ASSOCIATION REQUIREMENTS IS TOO HIGH. YOU KNOW, I THINK THE CITY MANAGER IS RECOMMENDING MAYBE IT SHOULD BE LOWER, A LOWER THRESHOLD, LIKE 25%. MAYBE AT CERTAIN FOOD OFFERINGS. RIGHT. LIKE NUMERICALLY IT'S TWO ITEMS, THREE ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE HEALTHY. THIS IS REALLY UP TO YOUR RECOMMENDATION. I WOULD LIKE TO I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND AND OR SUGGEST THAT WE DO LOWER THAT THRESHOLD. RIGHT. ONLY BECAUSE. THE STANDARD FOOD TRUCK IS NOT ACCUSTOMED TO THAT.YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT THEIR NORMAL PRACTICE, RIGHT? WHEN YOU LOOK AT TACOS, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO OFFER A SOY TACO? VEGAN TACO. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THAT'S THAT'S AN INVESTMENT THAT THEY HAVE TO MAKE INITIALLY. RIGHT? SO WHAT I THINK SO I THINK IF WE'RE ABLE TO LOWER THAT THRESHOLD, I THINK YOU MAY BE ABLE TO ATTRACT MORE. RIGHT. LIKE I DON'T SEE THAT ISSUE HAPPENING WITH A FRISCO TRUCK PER SE. RIGHT. BECAUSE FOR THE MOST PART RELATIVELY FISH ARE IT'S PRETTY HEALTHY. SO YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO ADAPT PRETTY EASILY. BUT WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOUR STANDARD MEXICAN DIET OR, YOU KNOW, MAKING MEXICAN OFFERINGS, THEY KIND OF LEAN INTO THE MORE UNHEALTHIER SIDE, RIGHT? WHEN IT COMES TO PORK, WHEN IT COMES TO, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THEIR THEIR COOKING METHODS ARE, ETC, RIGHT? AND THEN EVEN TO YOUR HOT DOG PROVIDER, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S MAYBE SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK OUT A LITTLE CLOSER IF WE LOWER THAT THRESHOLD. RIGHT. JUST TO SEE WHO WE CAN ATTRACT AND WHICH TRUCKS ARE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT REQUEST. YEAH, THAT'S GREAT FEEDBACK. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THIS? FOR ME THERE'S TWO THINGS FOR ME IS I'M JUST A LITTLE CONFUSED. SO OUR BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON THE PICTURES. SO IS THE IDEA AT THE MOMENT. I KNOW YOU'RE ASKING FOR OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT ARE THESE TRUCKS GOING TO BE STATIONARY? I MEAN WE'RE THINKING OF ACTUALLY, OR THEY'RE GOING TO BE MOVING EVERY NIGHT. THEY'D BE MOVING EVERY NIGHT. EVERY NIGHT. SO THEY'RE NOT STATIONARY, RIGHT? BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE SO BUT I'M ASSUMING THAT WOULD THERE BE LIKE A DESIGNATED, LET'S SAY A TRUCK SAYS THIS AND SAYS, OKAY, FOR THE NEXT YEAR, YOUR DESIGNATED AREA IS GOING TO BE HERE. IS THAT OBVIOUSLY I'M JUST THINKING YOU ALSO WANT THAT AS A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE ORDINANC.
YEAH. SO FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE I KNOW I SAW THE ONES FROM LOGAN, RIGHT. YEAH. SOME OF THOSE BARRIO LOGAN TRUCKS MOVE AND OTHERS ARE STATIONARY BECAUSE I'VE BEEN THERE. RIGHT. SO AND OBVIOUSLY MAYBE THAT COULD BE MAYBE AN AGREEMENT THAT THEY HAD WITH THE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE OWNER OF THE HOUSE OR, YOU KNOW, SO THAT THAT'S WHY THAT'S THE THAT'S KIND OF THE THOUGHT.
RIGHT. SO THAT WAS KIND OF MY FIRST THING THAT I NEEDED. I WANTED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AND CLARIFY THE SECOND ONE. AND I THINK, I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE FOR ME IS GOING TO BE THE CLEANLINESS. RIGHT? I WAS AT A PLACE FRIDAY CELEBRATING A PARADE IN LA, AND IT WAS INSANE.
RIGHT? AND SO ONCE YOU GET PEOPLE RIGHT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE START DESTROYING THINGS RIGHT? FOR GOOD REASONS OR BAD REASONS OR JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE PEOPLE. RIGHT? I JUST FEEL THAT IF THAT'S. I GUESS PERSONALLY, MY, MY, MY, THE BEST EXPERIENCE THAT I'VE HAD WITH THE FOOD TRUCK HAS BEEN IN PORTLAND. AND AGAIN, I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BECOME PORTLAND, RIGHT. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DID SEE IN PORTLAND WITH MY EXPERIENCE, I MEAN, IT COULD BE DIFFERENT WITH OTHER PEOPLE, IS THAT THERE WAS SOMEONE CLEANING, RIGHT? OR SOMEONE CLEANING WALKING.
THERE'S ALWAYS SOMEONE SWEEPING, AND THEN THEY AND THEN THE CITY OR OR OR THE OR THE STATIONARY BECAUSE THOSE RIGHT THERE ARE STATIONARY, YOU KNOW, VENDORS, YOU KNOW, HAVE A RESTROOM.
RIGHT? THEY HAVE LIKE THIS RESTROOM THAT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ALL JUST PURCHASE IT TOGETHER AND THEY HAVE THE RESTROOM, BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. IF WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THEN WE REALLY NEED TO THINK IS ARE THERE GOING TO OPEN THE LIBRARY RESTROOMS OR, YOU KNOW, THE RESTROOMS AT THE PARK AND THEN THE CLEANLINESS AROUND
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ONCE YOU DO THIS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE AND THEY'RE GONNA THROW AWAY A WRAPPER HERE OR A SODA CAN THERE. AND IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, I THINK I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT, ABOUT THE CLEANLINESS OF MAKING THIS DECISION. AND THEY THEY DO HAVE REQUIREMENTS TO KEEP THE AREA CLEAN. RIGHT? OBVIOUSLY, THAT THAT PUTS SOME RESPONSIBILITY ON CITY STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT'S HAPPENING. BUT IF THEY DON'T MEET THAT REQUIREMENT, THAT COULD BE GROUNDS TO TERMINATE THE PERMIT. SO I THINK THE RESTROOM SO THESE THESE WOULD BE THE IDEA IS THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, IT COULD BE IN FRONT OF ONE OF THESE HOMES. RIGHT. SO THEY'D HAVE TO WORK WITH STAFF ON THE SITE, PLAN TO DETERMINE WHICH WHICH IS A SUITABLE PLACE TO BE ABLE TO LOCATE IT, MAKE SURE IT'S SAFE. THEY HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN ADA REQUIREMENTS TO DO THAT. THEY PROBABLY HAVE TO LAY OUT SOME TABLES AND CHAIRS AWAY FROM THE SIDEWALK, SO IT'S NOT INTERRUPTING PEDESTRIAN FLOW ON THE SIDEWALK. AND THEN IF A LOT OF THEM WERE THE LOTS WEREOG WITH RESTROOMS TOGETHER, BECAUSE THE RESTROOM IN THE PARK IS PROBABLY TOO FAR AWAY BECAUSE IT'S 200FT. SO, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD EITHER JOINTLY FIGURE OUT SOMETHING THAT WOULD WORK, RIGHT? AND MAYBE IT'S ON ONE OF THE LOTS, BUT IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE SOME SOME COORDINATION TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IT WORK. BUT YEAH, I THINK THOSE THOSE POINTS ARE ARE DEFINITELY WELL TAKEN. I DO WANT TO MENTION THE OTHER CONSIDERATION IS AND YOU MIGHT HAVE REMEMBERED THIS WITH THE SIDEWALK VENDOR IS ALSO CONSIDERATION OF THE BRICK AND MORTAR BUSINESSES. RIGHT. THAT ARE LIKE THE RESTAURANTS. I THINK PART OF THIS WOULD BE VERY EXPERIMENTAL IN THIS AREA OF THE DOWNTOWN, WITH THE HOPES THAT SOME OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS COULD CONSIDER IF THIS IS SUCCESSFUL, THEN MAYBE THEY WOULD GO THROUGH THE EFFORT OF BUILDING SOMETHING MORE SUBSTANTIAL OR PROVIDING A CONVERSION OF PART OF THEIR HOME TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT OFFERING. I'VE SEEN THAT WORK WELL IN OTHER COMMUNITIES WHERE IT'S A HOME SLASH LIKE BUSINESS, OR IT'S ENTIRELY A BUSINESS, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO TODAY. BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD ANYONE DO THAT AROUND THE VETERANS PARK. BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK I THINK AND THIS PROBABLY THE VISION WAS LAID OUT BEFORE I ARRIVED HERE AT THE CITY, BUT I THINK THE IDEA WAS THAT YOU CAN HAVE A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE WOULD BE ABLE TO GO TO THESE DIFFERENT FOOD TRUCKS AROUND THE PARK AND IT WOULD BE A DESTINATION, RIGHT? THE HOURS WOULD BE FIVE TO MIDNIGHT. SO, YOU KNOW, IT COULD ALSO BE LIVELY NIGHTTIME ENVIRONMENT. I HAVE A QUESTION WHEN IT SAYS NO AMPLIFIED SOUND, THAT MEANS THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE ANY MUSIC WHATSOEVER.YEAH. SO THEY COULDN'T DO A RADIO. SO I MEAN THEY COULD HAVE A RADIO, BUT LIKE IF IT WAS AMPLIFIED SOUND, NO SPEAKER SPEAKERS, THEN IT WOULD BE NOT PERMITTED. OKAY, SO WAIT A MINUTE. YOU CAN'T HAVE A RADIO. YOU CAN HAVE A RADIO. YEAH. AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME, BUT THERE'S SOME. SO LET'S TALK ABOUT DECIBELS. WHAT IS THE DECIBEL THRESHOLD THAT, THAT CONSTITUTES AMPLIFIED SOUND. FOR THE RESIDENTIAL ZONE. SO THE RESIDENTIAL ZONES WOULD BE ADJACENT TO THESE LOTS THAT WE'RE SHOWING HERE. SO THAT DECIBEL LEVEL WOULD BE 45 AFTER 10:00. WHISPER. OKAY. AND HOW ABOUT LIVE ENTERTAINMENT LIKE A CONJUNTO? WELL, WE HAVEN'T SPECIFIED THAT. BUT BECAUSE IT'S NOT SPECIFIED, IT WOULDN'T BE PERMITTED. BUT THAT'S REALLY UP TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. IF YOU THINK DOES THIS APPLY FOR THE CONTAINER PARK AS WELL? NO.
THE CONTAINER PARK ALREADY HAS THEIR OWN RULES THAT WERE APPROVED WITH THE PERMIT. I SEE I THINK THAT THAT ELEMENT OF CONJUNTOS OR CATTRACHAS IS WHAT MAKES COACHELLA UNIQUE. YOU KNO.
I'D LIKE TO SEE THEM SEE THEM THERE. YOU KNOW, THAT'S PART OF OUR CULTURE. IT'S PART OF OUR DOWNTOWN. RIGHT? YOU DO SEE THEM AROUND. YOU DO SEE THEM WALKING THERE. YOU'LL SEE THEM AT THE FIREHOUSE ON OCCASION. RIGHT. THEY'LL SHOW UP AND IT'S A GOOD TIME, YOU KNOW, AND IT PROMOTES AMBIANCE AND IT PROMOTES A VIBE AS THE KIDS SAY. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'D LIKE TO STRONGLY CONSIDER ALLOWING THEM IN, IN THOSE AREA. OKAY. WHAT IS THERE A LIMITATION. SO FOR THE AREAS AROUND VETERANS PARK THE HOURS OF OPERATION ARE TILL MIDNIGHT.
OR AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING. WOULD YOU WANT THAT TO GO TO MIDNIGHT OR EARLIER? I THINK THAT, FOR INSTANCE, THE HOMES AROUND VETERANS PARK KNOWS THEY LIKE I
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IMAGINE THEY KNOW. WHAT HAS BEEN PLANNED THERE. RIGHT. AND I'M NOT SURE. WELL, IF I IMAGINE IF THEY WERE OPPOSED TO WHAT HAS BEEN PLANNED, THEY WOULD HAVE SPOKEN ON THE ISSUE. RIGHT? AND TRIED THEIR BEST TO SHOOT IT DOWN. SO I THINK AT THIS POINT IT'S ABOUT LETTING VISIONS, YOU KNOW, COME TO REALITY. RIGHT. AND DOING THE DOING WHAT WE CAN DO AS, AS A, AS A BOARD HERE TO BRINGING THOSE VISIONS INTO FRUITION, YOU KNOW. AND WHAT DOES THAT INVOLVE? WELL, IT INVOLVES A LOT OF MOVING COMPONENTS, WHETHER IT BE A FOOD TRUCK, WHETHER IT BE PROMOTING A CERTAIN VIBE PER SE, RIGHT, OR A CERTAIN FEEL OR A CERTAIN LOOK, MAYBE LIGHTING, ETC. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, AND THERE'S A CERTAIN LOOK THAT WE NEED TO REALLY CHASE AND A CERTAIN VIBE THAT WE REALLY NEED TO PROMOTE AND, AND IF WE WANT TO SEE THESE SPACES THRIVE, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY NEED TO PUSH THE ENVELOPE AND EXPLORE, RIGHT? AND BE A LITTLE, A LITTLE DARING IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS. RIGHT? AND ESPECIALLY IN THE NEXT FOUR. RIGHT. WHILE WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT THEY DO. YOU KNOW, I THINK AND I THINK WE NEED TO GIVE THEM THE RUNWAY. RIGHT. ARE YOU SUGGESTING TO HAVE THE MUSIC LIKE FROM MONDAY TO SUNDAY OR JUST LIKE THE FRIDAY, SATURDAY? I'M SAYING IF I'M NOT LIKE THAT, MUSIC IS PAID FOR, RIGHT? IT'S NOT. BUT I'M SAYING WHAT I'M SAYING. IF SOMEONE WANTS MUSIC AND THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PLAY MUSIC BY A CONJUNTO, WHICH IS NOT, NOT AMPLIFIED SOUND PER SE, LET THEM GO. YOU KNOW, IT'S PART OF THE ENVIRONMENT, RIGHT? THEY GATHER AT THE PARK EVERY DAY, YOU KNOW. AND SO I WOULD SAY GIVE THEM THE RUNWAY TO, TO AND GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY AND SEE WHAT THIS SPACE CAN BECOME. OKAY. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE I GO ON TO THE NEXT PART OF THE PRESENTATION AND WE COULD ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THE END, JUST JUST AS A JUST ONE MORE IS THERE IS THERE AROUND HERE VETERANS AROUND THE DOWNTOWN? DO YOU ALREADY HAVE AN IDEA HOW MANY TRUCKS YOU'RE PROJECTING? I MEAN, MAXIMUM IF YOU WERE TO MAXIMIZE THE AREA, HOW MANY TRUCKS WOULD THERE BE? SO THERE'S 18 LOTS. SO ESSENTIALLY THERE COULD BE 18 FOOD TRUCKS RIGHT. SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. RIGHT. LIKE IF EVERYONE HAD IT LIKE IS THERE A DRAWBACK TO THAT? DO WE REALLY THINK 18 FOOD TRUCKS WOULD END UP BEING RIGHT. BUT THAT THAT WOULD BE THE MAXIMIZE IN THE END ZONING AREA? OKAY, OKAY OKAY. EXCUSE ME. I AGREE WITH THE CHAIR. I THINK THAT WE SHOULD ALLOW IT AND IF THERE IS COMPLAINTS FROM, YOU KNOW, SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS, THEN WE WOULD ADDRESS THAT AT THAT TIME AND MAKE ADJUSTMENTS. BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO LOOK FOR THAT VIBE AND PROMOTE THAT VIBE, THEN WE HAVE TO ALLOW, YOU KNOW, FULL RANGE. I MEAN, SO AND THIS IS A PILOT PROGRAM. SO THIS IS WE'LL SEE HOW IT ALL WORKS. THEN, YOU KNOW, AND THEN IF SOMEONE'S CAR CLUB WANTS TO SHOW UP, THEN LET THEM SHOW UP, YOU KNOW, OR SO WANTS TO HOLD CARS AND COFFEE.LET THEM LET THEM DO THEIR THING. YOU KNOW. YEAH. SO THERE'S, YOU KNOW, I, I REALLY THINK I REALLY FEEL LIKE JUST BEING AROUND THE COMMUNITY A LOT AND BEING OUTSIDE, THERE'S LIKE A CERTAIN VIBE THAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR, YOU KNOW, AND PEOPLE ARE HUNGRY, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IN YOUR LOCAL CITY, YOU KNOW, AND, AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD SPEND DOLLARS HERE, WOULD SPEND THEIR LOCAL DOLLAR HERE INSTEAD OF GOING OUTSIDE TO THE NEIGHBORING CITIES. IF THE SPACES EXISTED, YOU KNOW, AND SO WE JUST GOT TO GIVE OURSELVES A FIGHTING CHANCE REALLY, YOU KNOW, TO, TO THRIVE AND TO EXIST IN THE SAME SPACE, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB. I THINK THIS IS VERY DARING. THIS IS STEPPING OUT AND GOOD JOB. YEAH. THANK YOU. THOSE ARE GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS. SO AND I JOTTED THOSE DOWN. SO NEXT WOULD BE CONSIDERING FOOD TRUCK PILOT PROGRAM IN THE DATE FARMS. SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANYTHING LIKE THIS EXISTS ANYWHERE. BUT WE ARE A COMMUNITY WHERE THERE ARE A LOT OF DATE FARMS. THAT'S PART OF THE HISTORY OF THE CITY. I JUST TOOK A SNAPSHOT OF WHAT'S IN GREATER PALM SPRINGS. THEY HAVE A LINK FOR DESTINATIONS AND ONE IS DATE FARMS, BUT THERE'S NO ACTUAL DATE FARMS LISTED, SO I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COACHELLA. SO HERE'S A MAP THAT SHOWS A LOT OF THE EXISTING DATE FARMS. IN OUR EXPERIENCE, TALKING WITH DATE FARM OWNERS IS THAT A LOT OF THEM HAVE A LOT OF
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PRESSURE, MAYBE TO SELL OR TO MOVE THEIR FARMS FURTHER SOUTH, WHERE LAND IS CHEAPER, AND THEN THEY COULD SELL THEIR PROPERTY AT A PREMIUM. SO I THINK WE WOULD HATE TO LOSE OUR DATE FARMS IN THE CITY. WE. IF YOU GREW UP IN THE COACHELLA VALLEY, YOU PROBABLY SEEN THE PROGRESSION OF DEVELOPMENT WHERE ALL THOSE FARMS WERE LOST ALL THE WAY FROM RANCHO MIRAGE, PALM DESERT, INDIAN WELLS, INDIO, AND SO WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF THEM, STILL HERE. AND I THINK THERE'S A WAY TO BE ABLE TO INCENTIVIZE THE THAT ENVIRONMENT, RIGHT, BY ALLOWING USES THAT AREN'T TRADITIONALLY ALLOWED IN OUR DATE FARMS. SO HERE'S KIND OF LIKE WHERE THEY'RE CLUSTERED A LOT OF THEM ARE MORE TOWARDS THE WESTERN PART OF THE CITY, BUT WE HAVE THEM DISTRIBUTED TOWARDS THE CENTER AND THE NORTHERN PART OF THE CITY AS WELL. WE HEAR SOME IMAGES OF WHAT MAYBE THAT ENVIRONMENT COULD LOOK LIKE UNDER A SCENARIO WHERE YOU HAD A FOOD TRUCK, BUT MAYBE ACTIVITIES THAT ARE CURATED. SO LET'S SEE. OUR INTERN BENICIO HELPED WITH SOME OF THESE IMAGES. SO THANK YOU BENICIO. GREAT JOB. SO THE ELIGIBILITY HERE WOULD BE THE SAME HEALTHY MENU. BUT IT WOULD IN ADDITION TO THAT IT WOULD BE OFFERING A MINIMUM OF ONE SIGNATURE DISH OR OFFERING WITH A DATE INGREDIENT, OR OFFER THE SALE DIRECT SALE OF DATES WITH THE IDEA OF CELEBRATING WHAT'S THERE, YOU KNOW, ON THE DATE FARM, RIGHT? I THINK THAT COULD BE A UNIQUE OFFERING THAT DOESN'T REALLY EXIST. AND THERE'S PLENTY YOU CAN DO WITH THOSE INGREDIENTS. SO IF HE COULDN'T MAKE A DISH, WELL, THEN YOU SELL IT SO THE LOCATION REQUIREMENTS WOULD BE EXISTING DATE PALM FARMS WITH THE MINIMUM OF ONE ACRE IN SIZE, AND THEN HAVE A MINIMUM OF 50 DATE PALMS. AND THE REASON I PUT THE 50 DATE PALMS IN THERE IS SO THAT SOMEONE DOESN'T SAY, I HAVE A 5000 SQUARE FOOT LOT, AND I PLANTED LIKE THREE DATE PALMS THAT SHOULD QUALIFY. SURE. SO THERE WOULD BE THE SIMILAR OPERATIONAL REQUIREMENTS FOR AREA MAINTENANCE. WE WOULD REQUIRE ON SITE CONSUMPTION AREA WITH CHAIRS AND TABLES, AND THAT WOULD BE ENCOURAGED. RIGHT NOW, THE ORDINANCE WOULDN'T ALLOW FOR AMPLIFIED SOUND, AND SIGNAGE WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED, BUT LIGHTS WOULD BE PERMITTED AS LONG AS THEY WERE SHIELDED, THERE WOULD BE THE SAME LOCATION SAFETY REQUIREMENTS IN TERMS OF DISTANCE FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY AS WELL AS FROM OTHER SAFETY CONCERNS, AND THEN ALCOHOL WOULDN'T BE PERMITTED, BUT IT WOULD BE PERMITTED IF YOU HAD AN ORGANIZED LIKE FARM TO TABLE EVENT, LIKE ON THE FARM. AND THEN THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO GET A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT THROUGH THROUGH THE CITY. SO QUESTION. WHAT WOULD WHAT WOULD WE HAVE TO CONSIDER TO ALLOW THEM TO SERVE ALCOHOL AT THAT LOCATION ON A FULL TIME BASIS? BESIDES, FROM THE IDEAS OF FARM TO TABLE WITH THE DISH? WELL, WE COULD WE COULD ALLOW THAT. SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS BEING VERY RESTRICTIVE IN TERMS OF THAT. IT'S TRYING TO BE CAUTIOUS. BUT I SEE THAT SPACE THAT POTENTIAL. THERE'S A HUGE UPSIDE TO THAT, TO THAT SPACE SPECIFICALLY.RIGHT. YOU WOULD THINK THAT SOMEONE WHO OWNS A PARCEL OR ACREAGE OF DATES HAS CAPITAL, AND THEY MIGHT SEE THAT THAT SPACE VERY BENEFICIAL FOR THEM. RIGHT. AND SO I THINK THAT THAT THOSE TYPES OF SPACES ARE PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY ARE POTENTIALLY HAVE A HIGHER UPSIDE THAN JUST A REGULAR. A REGULAR, JUST STATIONARY OR MOBILE FOOD TRUCK. RIGHT? JUST FOR THE SIMPLE FACT THAT THEY CAN PROBABLY PARTNER WITH SOMEONE WHO'S IN THAT SPACE ALREADY AND THEY CAN CURATE IT, CAN CURATE A MENU AND CURATE AN ENVIRONMENT AND OFF THEY GO, RIGHT? AND THEY'RE THRIVING. SO I WOULD RATHER SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND WE JUST TOTALLY RELEASE THEM TO GO AND, YOU KNOW, AND MAXIMIZE THE EFFORT VERSUS, OKAY, LET'S KIND OF, YOU KNOW, PULL BACK ON THE REINS A LITTLE BIT AND WAIT AND SEE. YOU KNOW, I THINK IF WE, YOU KNOW, OPEN UP THE GATES AND ALLOW THEM TO RUN, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT GET MIGHT GET SOMETHING BIG AND POTENTIAL
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FOR SOMETHING. RIGHT. AND I THINK THAT OPTION IS OPEN. SO JUST REMEMBER THAT WOULD REQUIRE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. SURE. SO WE COULD LEAVE IT VERY OPEN AND JUST SAY LEAVE IT UP TO THE REVIEW OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, WHICH WOULD COME BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN ANY WAY. RIGHT. YEAH. SO YEAH, DEFINITELY GIVE ME SOME MORE FEEDBACK ON THAT AT THE AT THE END OF THIS. BUT SO THERE WOULD BE REQUIREMENTS FOR WASTE DISPOSAL THAT OBVIOUSLY WE'D WANT TO SEE HOURS OF OPERATION. I'LL GO INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT. BUT FOR THIS IT WOULD REQUIRE PARKING AND WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO DO. SO TYPICALLY WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IN MOST CITIES, WE WOULD SAY, HEY, YOU NEED A PARKING STANDARDS AND IT HAS TO BE IMPERVIOUS ASPHALT AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE CURBS. WE WOULDN'T DO THAT IN THIS CASE, SINCE THIS IS A PILOT PROGRAM AND IT'S MORE OF AN AGRICULTURAL SETTING. WE WOULD ALLOW FOR LIKE DECOMPOSED GRANITE OR LIKE A GRAVEL SURFACE AND ALTERNATIVES TO REGULAR CURBS. AND THEN THAT WAY ALSO THE PARKING SERVICE SURFACE IS, IS ALLOWS FOR, YOU KNOW, DRAINAGE AND ALL THAT. SO THAT COULD BE COSTLY FOR SOMEONE TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING FOR A PILOT PROGRAM IF THEY HAD TO DO ASPHALT OR CONCRETE. SO THAT WOULD BE FLEXIBLE. THAT WOULD BE REVIEWED BY THE CITY ENGINEER. WE STILL WOULD REQUIRE A DISPLAY OF A PERMIT THAT THERE BE TRASH RECEPTACLES. THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A RESTROOM ON SITE MOSTLY.THAT WOULD BE LIKE A PORTABLE EXECUTIVE TOILET, LIKE A PORTA POTTY. THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED.
THERE WOULD BE DUST CONTROL REQUIREMENTS FOR THEM. BUT WHAT I THINK WOULD BE THE OPPORTUNITY IS TO ALLOW FOR CERTAIN THINGS THAT WOULD BE MORE FLEXIBLE, LIKE ACCESSORY RETAIL POP UPS.
SO I COULD SEE THAT BEING SOMETHING THAT COULD WORK WELL AND THAT WOULD BE ACCESSORY.
RIGHT. SO THE PRIMARY USE WOULD BE THE FOOD TRUCK, BUT THERE COULD BE RETAIL POP UPS AND THIS AND THIS WOULD BE ALL REVIEWED AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION LEVEL. SO THE OTHER PERMIT THAT I TALKED ABOUT FOR THE PARK AND THE DOWNTOWN AREA, THAT WOULD BE THE ADMINISTRATIVE PERMIT, THIS TYPE OF PERMIT HERE, SINCE IT'S A LOT MORE FLEXIBLE. I THINK IT KIND OF NEEDS TO GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS A NON HEARING ITEM THAT WE WOULD REQUIRE ACTIVITY AREAS. SO LIKE CORNHOLE OR LIKE HORSESHOE OR LIKE JENGA THAT THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED. RIGHT. LIKE HEY YOU WANT TO HAVE A FOOD TRUCK HERE BUT MAKE IT AN ENVIRONMENT THAT IS ACTIVE. WE WOULD ALLOW FOR WELLNESS ACTIVITIES LIKE ORGANIZED WORKOUTS AND YOGA. AND THEN AGAIN, I MENTIONED THIS WOULD GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SO THE HOURS OF OPERATION THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING FOR THIS IS 7 A.M. TO 10 P.M. AND THIS IS A LOT MORE FLEXIBLE IN TERMS OF THE START TIME, JUST BECAUSE I ALSO THINK THIS PROVIDES A FOOD OPTION THAT ARE MORE MORE IN THE FAR REACHES OF THE CITY THAT AREN'T REALLY IN COMPETITION WITH EXISTING RESTAURANTS AND BRICK AND MORTAR BUSINESSES. RIGHT? SO, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THESE ARE IN AREAS LIKE VAN BUREN AND YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE RESTAURANTS THERE OR FOOD SERVICE. IT WOULD BE ALLOWED SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. AND THEN IT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE FOUR YEAR TERM. CAN WE IS THERE A POTENTIAL MAYBE TO PHASE IN THE PARKING REQUIREMENT AND OR SURFACE? RIGHT. I'M COOL WITH THE WHOLE DUST MITIGATION THAT'S PROBABLY REQUIRED RIGHT OFF THE BAT. BUT AS FAR AS LIKE THE INITIAL INVESTMENT INTO PARKING, WHETHER WHETHER THEY INVEST IN SOME TYPE OF MULCH OR COVERAGE, RIGHT. MAYBE, PERHAPS WE COULD INVEST THEY COULD PHASE THAT IN AS THEY, YOU KNOW, GET THE BUSINESS UP AND GOING AND MAKE SOME MONEY. RIGHT. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SHOW, SHOW THE PROFIT AND THEN YOU KNOW, HEY, THIS IS WORTH THE WHILE. AND MAYBE, MAYBE SOME TYPE OF LIKE PHASED APPROACH TO THE PARKING LOT. YEAH. YEAH. AND I THINK WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS TAKE THAT BACK TO THE CITY ENGINEER AND GET HIS THOUGHTS ON IT. OKAY. AND EVEN OBVIOUSLY OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, JUST HAVE SOME DUST MITIGATION THERE. YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT THE WHAT THE GROUNDS DOWN OBVIOUSLY THE PARKING SURFACES RIGHT. YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, THROWING THE MULCH DOWN, THROWING SOME TYPE OF DJ. RIGHT. BECAUSE EVENTUALLY THAT DJ IS GOING TO BE USELESS. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT IT'S NOT VIABLE. YEAH. I MEAN IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE BEST TO DO SOME TYPE OF LIKE MULCH OR ROCK GRAVEL. YEAH. YEAH. SO THAT'S REALLY IT. JUST WANTED TO GET FEEDBACK AND GET YOUR QUESTIONS. OBVIOUSLY THIS IS VERY EXPERIMENTAL IN A LOT OF WAYS FOR THE CITY, BUT I THINK IT ACCOMPLISHES A FEW THINGS HOPEFULLY WITH THE PILOT PROGRAM
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AND THE BAIT FARMS THAT ALLOWS THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS. IT GIVES THEM A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY AND HOPEFULLY THEY RETAIN THAT USE OF THE AGRICULTURE THERE. BUT IN A WAY THAT ALSO PROVIDES A DESTINATION FOR THE CITY. RIGHT. AND THEN IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO SERVICE A LOT OF RESIDENTS AND COUNTY AREAS THAT DON'T HAVE READILY ACCESS TO A RESTAURANT. RIGHT. SO SUPER COOL. YEAH. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE FARM PERMIT? YEAH, JUST JUST TWO. SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY WHEN IT COMES TO THE TO THE SOUND, I KNOW WHAT THE WHAT THE DATE FARM. YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF MORE IN THE OUTSKIRTS. SO I THINK THAT YEAH RIGHT NOW IT DOESN'T ALLOW FOR IT GOING BACK TO THE CONCEPT OF MUSIC AND TAKATAKA AND STUFF LIKE THAT, OR EVEN, YOU KNOW, UNA CENA, RIGHT? I THINK YOU, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WITHIN THE ORDINANCE, RIGHT. BECAUSE THIS AREA I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, NEW ORDINANCE FOR RANCHOS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD. AND THEN GOING BACK TO TH, THE, THE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ALLOWING OBVIOUSLY COMING BACK TO BUT ALLOWING MAYBE SOME TYPE OF LIKE BEER GARDEN. RIGHT. AN AREA WHERE MAYBE IT COULD BE REQUIRED THAT IF THERE IS A BEER GARDEN, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, I GUESS THE PROPER LANGUAGE IS A SECURITY, BUT MAYBE SOMEONE, YOU KNOW, CHECKING IDS, PUTTING IN A RECEIPT AND THEN HAVING A DESIGNATED AREA WITHIN THAT AREA TO DO THAT. RIGHT. IF YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THE PROPERTY OR APPROPRIATE FOR THE VISION OF, OF THAT PARTICULAR OWNER. I THINK ALLOWING SOME OF THAT IS GOOD. AND THEN I ALSO LIKE I NEVER EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT IT, BUT THE RETAIL THING. RIGHT. THERE COULD BE A WAY FOR, YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTY OWNER TO RENT SPACE FOR SOMEONE ELSE AND BE, YOU KNOW, YET ANOTHER GENERATOR FOR THEM OF INCOME. SO, SO MY, MY, MY TWO STATEMENTS WAS I WAS CURIOUS ON ON THE NUMBER IN THE 50 PALM TREES. IS THAT A IS THAT DATE PALMS FAN PALMS OR IS JUST A COMBINATION OF BOTH OR SPECIFICALLY DATE PALMS RIGHT NOW IT SAYS DATE PALMS. BUT YOU KNOW, I JUST I JUST CHOSE THE NUMBER 50 BECAUSE I THINK MOST, MOST OF THE FARMS THAT I SEE ARE HAVE AT LEAST 50, YOU KNOW, LIKE TREES. CAN WE GET A COMBINATION OF TREES? RIGHT. BECAUSE THERE'S A FEW PARCELS THAT I KNOW OF THAT ARE NURSERY TYPES. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? AND DO HAVE NOT NECESSARILY ALL DATE PALMS. THEY HAVE OLIVE TREES. THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, FAN PALMS. AND SO THERE'S A COMBINATION RIGHT. AND THEY THEIR SPACE IS PROBABLY WOULD LOAN THEMSELVES MESQUITE TREES. YEAH. YOU KNOW TO THIS TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT. BUT I GET THE IDEA OF, OF THE SPACE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE IF THERE IS THE POTENTIAL TO MAXIMIZE ALL SPACES AND NOT JUST SPECIFICALLY TO, TO DATE DATE GARDENS. THE REASON I SAY 50 IS BECAUSE THERE ISN'T A LOT OF 50, YOU KNOW, OR PALM TREE LOCATIONS THAT HAVE 50 PALM TREES. YOU KNOW. YEAH, THERE IS A FEW. BUT YEAH, VERY, VERY FEW. DOES THAT INCLUDE SHOOTS TOO? RIGHT. YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF THOSE. I MEAN, WE COULD LOOK AT THAT AND MAYBE COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT STANDARD. YEAH. DO YOU WANT US TO DO THAT I THINK SO I MEAN IT WOULD, IT WOULD MAKE I THINK A LITTLE, A LITTLE MORE SENSE. YEAH. I JUST WANT TO SAY I THINK IT'S A VERY NICE IDEA.IT REMINDS ME OF THE LAVENDER FIELDS IN BEAUMONT. IF YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN THERE. YEAH, SOMEONE'S BEEN THERE. SO THE LAVENDER FIELDS AND THEY, THEY KIND OF DO THE SAME THING. EVERY STAND THEY HAVE HAS TO SELL ONE ITEM WITH LAVENDER IN IT. SO THEY HAVE LIKE LAVENDER GOAT CHEESE BURGERS OR LAVENDER LEMONADE. AND IT'S SUCCESS LIKE IT'S A HUGE HIT. AND PEOPLE GO FROM ALL OVER SOCAL JUST TO VISIT IT. AND I THINK IT'S VERY, VERY SUCCESSFUL. SO HAVING THAT HERE WITH LIKE A DATE MARGARITA SOUNDS REALLY NICE. YOU KNOW, LIKE THAT KIND OF IMPLEMENT. OUR CULTURE. IT'S OUR IT'S OUR CULTURE. SO IMPLEMENTING IT IT WOULD BE VERY NICE. I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA. YEAH, YEAH YEAH. AND I'M SURE THEY GOT HIM. YEAH. YEAH. IF YOU GUYS HAVEN'T BEEN THERE YOU SHOULD GO. IT'S NICE. YEAH. IT'S NICE. IT'S REALLY NICE. WELL, SO THIS IS A STUDY SESSION AND THIS WILL COME BACK TO YOU AGAIN. MY GOAL IS TO BRING IT BACK TO YOU AT THE NEXT MEETING AND WORK ON SOME OF THE REVISIONS, AND THEN YOU'LL BE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. GOOD JOB.
LET'S TAKE A 15 MINUTE INTERMISSION HERE. AND WE CAN
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