[00:00:03] GIVE HER A COUPLE OF MINUTES? DO YOU WANT ME TO MAKE THE SWITCH? I THINK WE'RE READY TO GO. JOIN [CALL TO ORDER] US. PLEASE. I WANT TO WELCOME EVERYBODY TO OUR SCHEDULED PLANNING. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, FOR SEPTEMBER FOURTH OF 2024. THE TIME IS 601. VICE CHAIR GONZALEZ, YOU CAN LOOSEN UP. THANKS, RICHARD. RIGHT AS ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU MAY BE SEATED. ALL RIGHT. CAN WE GET A ROLL CALL? MR. DIRECTOR. MR. PSU, ABSENT ALTERNATE COMMISSIONER. MR. PRESIDENT, COMMISSIONER MCGILL. PRESENT. MR. PRESENT VICE CHAIR. GONZALEZ PRESENT. AND. HERNANDEZ. PRESENT. I'D LIKE TO [APPROVAL OF AGENDA] MOVE ON TO THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. AT THIS TIME, THE COMMISSION MAY ANNOUNCE ANY ITEMS BEING PULLED FROM THE AGENDA AND CONTINUE TO ANOTHER DATE OF, OR REQUEST THE MOVING OF AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA? I MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA. OH, I WAS JUST GOING TO INTERJECT. I WAS JUST GOING TO REQUEST IF WE COULD MOVE THE CP 345 TO THE BEGINNING. OKAY THAT'S NUMBER SEVEN. ALL RIGHT. SO MOVING 7 TO 4. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. PERFECT. CAN WE GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA THAT WE ARE MOVING ITEM NUMBER SEVEN TO ITEM FOUR. I MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA. MOVING ITEM SEVEN TO ITEM ABOVE. ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS PUBLIC HEARING CALENDARS FOR THE. YEAH. FIRST ITEM. PERFECT. OH MY BAD. OKAY, CAN WE GET A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT. ALL RIGHT. CAN WE GET A ROLL CALL? OKAY. COMMISSIONER. ALTER. COMMISSIONER FONSECA. YES, COMMISSIONER. MURILLO. YES. COMMISSIONER RAMIREZ. YES. VICE CHAIR. GONZALEZ. YES. AND CHAIR HERNANDEZ. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME, ANY. MY BAD, NOW WE NEED TO MOVE ON TO THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. I'D [APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES] LIKE TO COMBINE, ITEMS ONE, TWO AND THREE, IF THAT'S OKAY. CAN WE GET A MOTION TO COMBINE THOSE THREE? I MOTION TO COMBINE THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES FROM JUNE 5TH, JULY 3RD AND JULY 17TH. PERFECT SECOND. I SECOND THAT. ROLL CALL. ALTERNATE COMMISSIONER FONSECA. YES COMMISSIONER MURILLO. YES. COMMISSIONER RAMIREZ. YES. VICE CHAIR. GONZALEZ. YES. CHAIR HERNANDEZ. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. MOVING OVER TO WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS. MR. DIRECTOR, NONE FROM STAFF. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. MOVING ON TO PUBLIC COMMENTS. NON HEARING ITEMS. THIS TIME, THE PUBLIC MAY ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON ANY ITEM OF INTEREST TO THE PUBLIC THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA BUT IS WITHIN THE SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION THEREOF. PLEASE LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES AT THIS TIME. AT 605, I'D LIKE TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC COMMENT. ARE THERE ANY ANYBODY LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION AT THIS TIME? IF THERE'S ANYBODY ONLINE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. THERE ARE NONE. ALL RIGHT. PERFECT. CLOSING THE PUBLIC COMMENT AT 605. ALL RIGHT, ANY REPORTS AND REQUESTS? MR. DIRECTOR? NONE FROM STAFF CHAIR. [NON-HEARING ITEMS] ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT, NOW MOVING OVER TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR. NON HEARING ITEMS. THE LIBRARY ANNEX, CONCEPTUAL DESIGN FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE COACHELLA LIBRARY ANNEX BUILDING AT 1538 SEVENTH STREET. APPLICANT CITY OF COACHELLA. CHAIR. THIS WILL BE A PRESENTATION BY ASSOCIATE PLANNER ADRIAN MORENO. MR. MORENO, WELCOME. THANK YOU. HELLO PLANNING COMMISSION AND CHAIR. I'LL BE PRESENTING THE ITEM. THE LIBRARY ANNEX CONCEPTUAL DESIGN PROJECT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE COACHELLA LIBRARY ANNEX BUILDING AT 1538 SEVENTH STREET. THE APPLICANT IS THE CITY OF COACHELLA. SO THIS IS A VICINITY MAP IN BLUE. I HIGHLIGHTED WHERE THAT LIBRARY, THE CURRENT LIBRARY ANNEX, IS LOCATED. IN BLUE THERE, AND NOTED AS THE SITE THE GENERAL PLAN IS PUBLIC FACILITIES ZONING IS GENERAL [00:05:01] COMMERCIAL AND THE AREA IS 0.84 ACRES. SORRY, A LITTLE TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY THERE, BUT BACKGROUND. SO A BIT OF BACKGROUND. IN SEPTEMBER 2022, THE CITY OF COACHELLA WAS AWARDED A GRANT FOR 4,568,000 FROM CALIFORNIA STATE LIBRARY BUILDING FORWARD GRANT PROGRAM TO RENOVATE AND UPGRADE ITS LIBRARY ANNEX BUILDING, AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE BUILDING IS NOT A DESIGNATED HISTORICAL RESOURCE BY THE CITY OR THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, THIS IS THE FLOOR PLAN FOR THE NEW LIBRARY ANNEX BUILDING. SO JUST A BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THIS. SO STAFF DID LOOK INTO EITHER RENOVATING THE CURRENT LIBRARY ANNEX BUILDING OR DEMOLISHING IT. AND BUILDING IT FROM THE GROUND UP. AND STAFF FOUND THAT IT WOULD BE ACTUALLY MORE COST EFFECTIVE TO DEMOLISH IT AND BUILD IT FROM THE GROUND UP. AND THIS IS THE CONCEPTUAL FLOOR PLAN AS IT IS NOW. THIS COULD CHANGE, BUT THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW. THERE IS A COMMUNITY ROOM AREA, WITH, YOU KNOW, SEATING, A STAGE. AND FOR, BOOKSHELVES IN THE CENTER THERE IN ORANGE IS A STUDY HALL SPACE WITH TABLES. AND ALSO THERE'S GOING TO BE A FOOD LAB SPACE WHERE A THIRD PARTY COULD COME IN AND BE SIMILAR TO LIKE SIXTH STREET COFFEE. RIGHT A FOOD VENDOR CAN COME INTO THAT SPOT AND SELL FOOD THERE. AND THERE'S THAT STUDY HALL AREA WHERE YOU CAN EAT OR STUDY, AND THEN TO THE RIGHT OF THE BUILDING IN PINK IS CLASSROOM SPACE, WHERE THERE'S GOING TO BE MAKERSPACE, DIGITAL MAKERSPACE, AND MEDIA LAB, WHERE THERE'S GOING TO BE, RIGHT NOW, IT'S PLANNED TO HAVE LIKE TEXTILE, CERAMIC AND OTHER KIND OF CREATIVE SPACES THERE, DIGITAL, CREATIVE SPACES AS WELL. AND AGAIN, THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL DESIGN WHICH MAY CHANGE. SO JUST LETTING YOU KNOW, RIGHT. THE STAFF IS LOOKING FOR A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION REGARDING THREE DIFFERENT ARCHETYPES, ARCHITECTURAL STYLE OPTIONS. AND I'LL BE PRESENTING THOSE THREE DIFFERENT OPTIONS. AND WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR DIRECTION FROM FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON WHICH ONE TO CHOOSE SO THAT WE COULD, DEVELOP A COMPLETE DEVELOPMENT PLAN SET AND THEN HAVE IT TO A PUBLIC HEARING IN THE FUTURE FOR YOU GUYS. SO THIS IS OPTION ONE. THIS IS A MODERN STYLE, WITH A WHITE STUCCO DESIGN HERE. SO THIS WOULD BE OPTION ONE, WHICH IS THE MODERN STYLE. OPTION TWO IS THE DESERT STYLE, AND IT HAS A TRANSLUCENT, TRANSLUCENT ENTRANCE WITH LIKE A WINDOW TYPE ENTRANCE. AND THIS IS OPTION THREE, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO THE OTHER STYLE. RIGHT. BUT A DIFFERENT ENTRANCE LOOK WHERE IT HAS A STUCCO FINISH ENTRANCE, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT COLORFUL MURAL LOOKING, CENTERPIECE THERE. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE FOR A MURAL OR DIGITAL SCREEN, IT'S APPROXIMATELY 32 BY 17FT. AND STAFF IS STILL LOOKING TO SEE IF IT'S GOING TO END UP BEING A MEDIA SCREEN OR A MURAL SPACE. AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, IN REGARDS TO LANDSCAPING, THERE IS NO LANDSCAPING IMPROVEMENTS PLANNED FOR THIS PROJECT. THE FUNDING IS AVAILABLE FOR LANDSCAPING WITHIN THE SCOPE OF WORK. BUT OF COURSE PLANNING COMMISSION MAY OFFER SUGGESTIONS FOR FUTURE LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS AND OUR RECOMMENDATION IS FOR PLANNING COMMISSION TO DIRECT STAFF TO PREPARE A COMPLETE DEVELOPMENT PLAN SET FOR ONE OF THREE POTENTIAL ARCHITECTURAL ELEVATION CONCEPTS FOR THE LIBRARY ANNEX PROJECT. AND AGAIN, IT WOULD BE OPTION ONE, TWO AND THREE. AND WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR PLANNING COMMISSION'S DIRECTION ON WHICH ONE. PLANNING COMMISSION WANTS US TO DEVELOP A COMPLETE PLAN SET FOR AND TAKE IT TO A FUTURE HEARING. THANK YOU. AWESOME. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. MORENO, FOR YOUR TIME, YOUR PRESENTATION, WHAT ARE THE WISHES? CAN I CAN I MENTION ONE THING, TOO, WE ALSO HAVE OUR CITY ENGINEER, ANDREW SIMMONS, AVAILABLE HERE, TOO. SO HE'S USUALLY IN CHARGE OF OUR BIG CAPITAL PROJECTS LIKE THIS. SO, JUST SO YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT AS WELL. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, CITY ENGINEER. APPRECIATE IT, WHAT ARE THE DESIRES AND WISHES FOR THIS DAIS? WE CAN START WITH COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER RAMIREZ. I JUST HAD A CLARIFYING QUESTION. OKAY, PERFECT. GO AHEAD. SO, BEFORE WE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE OPTIONS, I HAVE A QUESTION. SO MY QUESTION IS, ARE THERE COST, VARIANCES BETWEEN THE OPTIONS, OR ARE THEY ABOUT THE SAME PRICE RANGE? I BELIEVE THERE ARE COST VARIATIONS WITH THE OPTIONS, BUT WE REALLY DIDN'T WANT TO BRING UP THE COST OF THE PROJECT [00:10:04] BECAUSE THERE IS SUFFICIENT COST FOR EITHER OPTION. AND WE REALLY WANTED TO SEE PLANNING COMMISSION'S, CHOICE OF WHICH IS THE BEST DESIGN. OKAY. UNDERSTOOD I RESPECT THAT, MY SECOND QUESTION IS FOR THE MURAL OR THE DIGITAL FRAME THAT IS BEING CONSIDERED. IS THAT WITHIN SCOPE OF THE GRANT MONIES OR THAT WOULD BE FROM THE CITY OF COACHELLA, THAT IS WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE GRANT MONEY. IT IS PART OF THE FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT. AND AGAIN, WE'RE STILL LOOKING TO SEE IF THAT'S GOING TO BE A DIGITAL SCREEN OR A MURAL. UNDERSTOOD. AND THEN JUST CURIOUS. SO THE GRANT MONEY IS TO ESTABLISH AND REMODEL AND CREATE THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS FACILITY. RIGHT. RIGHT, JUST CURIOUS. AND THIS IS AGAIN, AWAY FROM THE RECOMMENDATIONS, JUST FROM MY OWN KNOWLEDGE, BECAUSE IT WAS NOT IN THE PRESENTATION. WHAT ARE WE CONSIDERING OR WHAT ARE THE ESTIMATED OPERATION COSTS FOR THIS? JUST CURIOUS IF WE HAVE THOSE NUMBERS. I WOULDN'T HAVE THE NUMBERS, BUT MAYBE THE, ANDREW, THE CITY ENGINEER OR THE DESIGNER MAY HAVE THOSE NUMBERS. YEAH, ACTUALLY, AS A IN ORDER TO GET THE GRANT, WE HAVE TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE RIVERSIDE COUNTY LIBRARY SERVICES. SO THOSE COSTS ACTUALLY HAVE TO ALREADY BE ESTABLISHED, AND WE ALREADY HAVE THE CONTRACT ESTABLISHED WITH THEM, I DON'T RECALL THE EXACT NUMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT IT WAS KIND OF IN THE $200,000 RANGE, I BELIEVE. SO THOSE ARE YEARLY, MONTHLY, JUST YEARLY. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. YEAH. BECAUSE I DID SEE THAT THERE WAS AN OPERATING, ARRANGEMENT WITH THE WITH THE COUNTY OF RIVERSIDE. YEAH, YEAH. AND, I'M GUESSING ON THAT NUMBER. SO DON'T QUOTE ME ON. I'M JUST CURIOUS. I GUESS I'M RECORDED, SO I'M ALREADY QUOTED, BUT, QUOTE UNQUOTE. YEAH. NO THAT'S OKAY. YEAH. BUT THOSE THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL AND THOSE OPERATING COSTS ARE ALREADY BUILT INTO THE WHOLE PROGRAM. AND PART OF THE AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY LIBRARY, IN ORDER TO QUALIFY FOR THE GRANT SERVICE. THAT'S FINE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT REALLY HELPS WITH MY UNDERSTANDING WITH THIS. THAT'S IT. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? THAT'S IT. COMMISSIONER FONSECA. FOR ME, THE ONLY QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS, IS THE CITY INTERESTED IN MAINTAINING THE SAME COLOR COORDINATION? I KNOW THE LIBRARY IS WHITE. YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THE WHITE STUCCO. AND THEN I KNOW THERE WAS A THERE WAS A RECOMMENDATION FOR A DIFFERENT COLOR FOR OBVIOUSLY OPTION TWO AND THREE. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY IS INTERESTED IN AND LOOKING AT, OR IS JUST, AGAIN, OPTIONS? THAT WOULD BE U, RIGHT? SO THESE ARE THE THREE OPTIONS THAT ARE BEING PRESENTED, RIGHT. AND OPTION TWO AND THREE IS REALLY TO KIND OF MIMIC LIKE A DESERT STYLE. SO THAT'S WHY THE COLOR WAS CHOSEN FOR THAT. YEAH I REALLY LIKE THE FIRST OPTION. SO I REALLY LIKE THAT INTEREST. I'M I'M NOT REALLY BIG ON THE ON THE GLASS JUST BECAUSE, AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, I WORK AT THE UNIVERSITY AT CAL STATE SAN BERNARDINO, HERE AT THE PONDEROSA CAMPUS. AND THERE'S, THERE'S SOME GLASS THERE. AND THE AIR CONDITIONING BILLS ARE PRETTY INSANE BECAUSE OF THAT GLASS. SO AND THE WAY THAT THE GLASS IS POSITIONED, OBVIOUSLY. SO I'M NOT BIG ON GLASS HERE ON DESERT, BUT, THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY THING. BUT I REALLY LIKE THAT OPTION. OPTION NUMBER ONE. AND COMMISSIONERS, I WAS GOING TO MENTION, LIKE I ASSUME THERE'S THE POSSIBILITY TO SWAP OUT COLORS IF YOU LIKE THE LOOK OF ONE BUILDING, LIKE THE ARCHITECTURE, BUT YOU WANT THE COLOR OF ANOTHER. THAT'S POSSIBLE, THE STAFF, WE'VE BEEN KIND OF CHALLENGED ALSO TO LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS BESIDES JUST NORMAL, LIKE WHITE OR OFF WHITE, THAT'S WHY THE FIRE STATION CAME OUT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT OR LIKE, HEY, YOU SHOULD TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT. SO, YOU KNOW, THESE WERE THE, THE COLOR RECOMMENDATIONS PROVIDED BY THE ARCHITECT, BUT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, IT'D BE GREAT TO HEAR FROM YOU. YEAH. AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, I REALLY LIKE THE USAGE OF THE FLOOR PLAN. I APPRECIATE THAT THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THERE'S ALWAYS A BIG ROOM IS ALWAYS NICE TO HAVE AVAILABLE FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO I THINK THAT'S A GREAT THING. AND HAVING OBVIOUSLY A FOOD OPTION IS GREAT. BUT I REALLY LIKE THE DESIGN AND THE INSIDE. I THINK IT'S REALLY GOOD. I DIDN'T SEE HOW MANY RESTROOMS ARE IN THERE, BUT I KNOW RESTROOMS ARE ALWAYS THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE FAMILIES ARE ALWAYS MINDFUL OF. SO, BUT AS AS FOR THE FLOOR PLAN OF WHAT WAS DESIGNED, I THINK IT'S VERY, VERY, VERY, SMART HOW WHOEVER DESIGNED THIS FOR COMMUNITY USAGE OVERALL. SO I THINK IT'S REALLY, REALLY GOOD. RIGHT. AND TO JUST QUICKLY ADD, THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDING WAS TO BE MORE SIMPLE AND COST EFFECTIVE TO REALLY INVEST MORE OF THAT MONEY INTO THE COMMUNITY AMENITIES. YEAH, I THINK, I THINK I THINK THAT'S A THAT'S THE BEST, APPROACH. I THINK, MAINTAINING THE ARCHITECTURAL FLOW OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN, WHAT THE CITY HAS BEEN DESIGNING, OFF OF SIXTH STREET AND THIS, THIS AREA. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP THAT FACADE, BUT AS YOU KNOW. [00:15:05] RIGHT TECHNOLOGY, YOU KNOW, YOU BUY SOMETHING NOW AND IT'S ALREADY OUTDATED IN THE NEXT WEEK, RIGHT? SO I THINK THE MORE WE CAN BE, MINDFUL OF THE USAGE AND WHAT'S, WHAT'S FURNITURE BEING USED AND, FOR THE COMMUNITY, I THINK IT'S, IT'S GREAT TO, TO, TO HAVE THAT IN MIND ALSO SO THAT. YES, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING. IT LOOKS GREAT. BUT THEN IT'S OUR, OUR, OUR STATE OF THE STATE OF THE ART OFF THE BAT. THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS, CHAIR. THANK YOU SO MUCH. GRACIAS, SENOR. VICE CHAIR GONZALEZ. YEAH. WHAT'S THE SEATING CAPACITY? THE SEATING CAPACITY? I DON'T KNOW THAT OFFHAND, BUT THE COMMUNITY ROOM IS 14,000FT■!S. AND THERE ARE ACTUALLY DIFFERENT FLOOR PLANS FOR THE COMMUNITY ROOM FOR DIFFERENT DESIGNS. SO THIS ONE IS TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE MORE SEATING, RIGHT? BUT THEN THERE'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT FLOOR PLANS, WHICH WILL HAVE BOOKSHELVES AND LIKE TABLES AND SUCH. RIGHT YEAH, I LIKE OPTION ONE TO I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO KEEP WITH, THE PUEBLO VIEJO CONCEPT, THAT'S PROBABLY THE CLOSEST ONE, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO MATCH, OBVIOUSLY A SENIOR CENTER AND, YOU KNOW, THE DOWNTOWN THEME WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP. SO I THINK, OPTION ONE IS, IS THE ONE I WOULD PREFER. I THINK THE COLOR, LIKE I SAID, IT DOESN'T MATTER. IT COULD BE A BEIGE OR AN OFF WHITE OR LIKE A TERRACOTTA. OKAY. I DID WANT TO MAKE A CLARIFICATION ABOUT THE COMMUNITY ROOM. THE WHOLE SPACE. THE WHOLE LIBRARY SPACE WILL BE UTILIZED BY THE RIVERSIDE COUNTY LIBRARY SERVICES, SO PRIMARILY THAT ROOM WILL HAVE BOOKSHELVES IN IT, SO THE TABLES AND THE BOOKSHELVES THAT WERE ON THE OTHER FLOOR PLAN, WHICH I DON'T THINK MADE IT INTO THE PRESENTATION, WOULD BE THE, THE PRIMARY LAYOUT. SO THIS LAYOUT IS KIND OF SHOWING WHAT THE MAXIMUM SEATING COULD BE. THIS WOULD BE FOR KIND OF SPECIAL EVENTS THAT THE CITY WOULD HOST. SO, YOU KNOW, THE LIBRARY SERVICES IS THE IS THE PRIMARY TENANT OF THE BUILDING. IT WOULD ALWAYS BE. IT WOULD PRIMARILY FUNCTION AS A, A ROOM THAT WOULD HAVE BOOKS AND SERVICES AND KIND OF MEETING SPACE THAT WOULD BE LIBRARY ORIENTED, AND THEN THE LARGE ROOM THAT'S KIND OF TO THE SOUTH OF THAT GATHERING AREA. WE WOULD HAVE ROLLING BOOKSHELVES. THE BOOKSHELVES CAN ROLL IN AND OUT, THE SEATS CAN COME IN AND OUT. SO THAT BECOMES KIND OF A CONVERTIBLE MODIFIABLE SPACE. SO THAT WE CAN HAVE SPECIAL EVENTS AND WE COULD ROLL THE BOOKS AWAY FOR A SPECIAL EVENT THAT WE WERE DOING AFTER HOURS AND THEN PUT THE BOOKS BACK OUT FOR THE LIBRARY SERVICES. I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO GIVE THE IMPRESSION THAT IT ONLY ACTS AS A COMMUNITY ROOM, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE KIND OF A SECONDARY USE. THE PRIMARY USE IS THE IS THE LIBRARY SERVICES. SO WHAT'S THE TOTAL CAPACITY OF, OF THE LARGE ROOM WHERE YOU'RE WHERE THE COMMUNITY WOULD HAVE ACCESS SEATING? YEAH, AND THIS IS OUR ARCHITECT FROM IDEAS WHO HAS ACTUALLY BEEN, DEVELOPING ALL THESE PLANS FOR US. NICE GOOD EVENING. COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS JOHN SILVER, AND I LEAD THE ARCHITECTURAL GROUP AT IDS. WE'RE THE BOTH THE ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS. I THINK WE'VE LAID THIS OUT FOR ABOUT 120 PEOPLE. WE COULD WE IT COULD TAKE MAYBE 150, AND BUT IN THE WAY WE'VE GOT IT CONFIGURED HERE, WHICH I THINK IS A NICE MIX. IT'S SOMETHING ON THAT ORDER AND, YEAH, THE OTHER QUESTIONS WOULD BE SO 150 LIKE 150. SO THIS IS THE AREA WHERE IF YOU DESCRIBING THE ROLL OUT BOOKSHELVES, WELL YES, IN THE ROLL OUT BOOKSHELF MOTORCARS NOT BUT YES IN THE SEATING CONFIGURATION YOU SEE HERE WOULD BE ABOUT 150. OKAY. PEOPLE COULD SEAT THERE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YO. AWESOME. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANYTHING ELSE? ANY FURTHER? I THINK THAT'S IT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR. COMMISSIONER, WHAT DO YOU. OPTION ONE DEFINITELY ALIGNS WITH THE IDEA THAT WE'RE GOING WITH IN THE CITY. HOWEVER, I THINK OPTION THREE IS, LIKE, THE MOST HAPPY MEDIUM BETWEEN ONE AND TWO. SO I WOULD VOTE FOR OPTION THREE. I THINK IT GIVES, LIKE A, STILL THAT DESERT LOOK WITH THE SPANISH LOOK, BUT WITHOUT IT BEING LIKE THE SAME BUILDING OVER AND OVER AGAIN. SO I WOULD VOTE FOR OPTION THREE. AWESOME. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. AWESOME. OKAY, SO, OBVIOUSLY WE GOT $4.5 MILLION GRANT, WHAT DO WE KNOW? THE TOTAL ESTIMATED BUDGET IS GOING TO BE. CURRENTLY, ALL THESE OPTIONS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ARE IN ABOUT THE 6.1 TO 6.3 MILLION RANGE. AND A LOT OF THAT COST IS BEING DRIVEN BY THE SIZE OF THAT COMMUNITY ROOM, SO WHEN WE DO GET FOR THE FINAL DESIGN, THERE WOULD BE A POTENTIAL TO MAYBE SHRINK THE COMMUNITY ROOM IF WE CAN'T FIND ENOUGH BUDGET TO MAKE THE PROJECT WORK. BUT [00:20:02] ALL OF THE FACADES, THERE'S NOT A BIG PRICE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FACADES, BUT OUR TOTAL ESTIMATE FOR WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY LAYING OUT WITH THE SQUARE FOOTAGE WE'RE SHOWING IS, IS IN THE LOW 6 MILLION RANGE. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE AT 6.1. HOW DO WE PLAN TO GET FROM 4.5 TO 6.1? I KNOW THAT'S PROBABLY NOT MY. IS THAT OUT OF THE CAN I ASK THAT QUESTION OR NOT, I MEAN THAT'LL BE ULTIMATELY DETERMINED BY THE CITY COUNCIL IS HOW THEY WANT TO ALLOCATE DIFFERENT FUNDS OR IF THEY WANT TO, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY CUT BACK ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IN ORDER TO GET THAT COST CLOSER TO THE GRANT AMOUNT. OKAY, I MEAN, ONCE WE HAVE FINAL PLANS, THE FINAL COST ESTIMATES ARE PREPARED UNTIL WE HAVE FINAL CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS AND THEN THAT HAS TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL IN ORDER TO APPROVE, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER FUNDING IS NEEDED TO, TO COME UP WITH ANY SHORTAGE BETWEEN THE FINAL COST AND THE GRANT COST. OKAY. SO IF I, IF I WERE, IF I WANTED TO REALIZE THIS PROJECT. RIGHT. OBVIOUSLY AND MAXIMIZE THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING, WHICH WHICH FACADE WOULD HELP ME GET THERE. THAT'S WHY I ASKED THAT EARLIER, OPTION ONE IS THE IS THE LEAST EXPENSIVE OF THE THREE OPTIONS. OKAY WELL, OPTION ONE, IT IS WITH WHITE PAINT. I MEAN, I LIKE OPTION THREE. PERSONALLY, I AGREE AND CONCUR WITH, COMMISSIONER MURILLO'S OPINION SINCE. BUT THAT'S WHY I ASKED INITIALLY WHAT IS THE COST VARIANCE BETWEEN THESE THREE OPTIONS. AND I WOULD LIKE US TO BE MORE REALISTIC TO ACHIEVE OUR GOALS FOR OUR COMMUNITY. I DON'T WANT TO PUT, YOU KNOW, THE CARRIAGE BEFORE THE HORSE. I WANT TO BE SMART AND STRATEGIC THINKING AND HELP OUR COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, MAKE THE BEST DECISION AS WE ARE THEIR EYES AND EARS BEFORE IT GOES TO THEM. SO THAT'S WHY I ASKED THOSE QUESTIONS. YEAH SO THANK YOU FOR THAT REASON. I ALSO THEN AGREE. THEN I WOULD CHANGE MY OPINION FROM 3 TO 1 TO MAKE THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE. YEAH, I THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO REALIZE PROJECTS. AND THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL PROJECT AND SOMETHING THAT OUR COMMUNITY DESERVES. AND LET'S TRY OUR BEST TO REALIZE THIS PROJECT AND GET THIS THING GOING, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S OPTION ONE IS A BEAUTIFUL IT'S A BEAUTIFUL OPTION AS WELL. YOU KNOW. AND NOW THAT IT'S JUST THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A MURAL. CORRECT. VERSUS THE LED SCREEN OR IS THAT AN OPTION FOR THAT DETERMINED BY STAFF. OKAY. YEAH I THINK THE GOAL IS TO GET THE LED SCREEN. JUST THE LOOK OF THAT WOULD WOULD BE GOOD, RIGHT. ESPECIALLY AT NIGHTTIME. OH YEA. SO THAT'S WHY WE SET UP THE LED SCREEN. BUT AGAIN RELATIVE TO COST CONCERNS LED SCREEN IS PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE THE INITIAL BUDGET. OH SO WHAT IS WHAT IS THE COST ESTIMATE OF AN LED SCREEN OF THAT SIZE. I DON'T HAVE WE DON'T HAVE A NUMBER FOR THAT. RIGHT. RIGHT. AT THE MOMENT. THE OTHER POSSIBILITY EXCUSE ME, COULD WE PLEASE SPEAK ON THE MICROPHONE. THANK YOU. WE CAN ADD THAT LATER. MAN NEVER. LATER. THERE'S ACTUALLY A COUPLE WAYS TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT WE'RE SHOWING HERE. ONE IS THE LED SCREEN AND THE OTHER THAT IS TO MAKE IT A PROJECTOR SCREEN AND USE A PROJECTOR WITHIN THE PARK. AND WE THINK OF THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE MOVIE IN THE PARK KIND OF EVEN THAT WAS NICE ON A COOLER EVENING THAN TONIGHT, BUT, IT COULD BE VERY NICE AS A, AS A FIRST STEP. AND THE LED IS THE SECOND STEP, BUT WE'LL PROVIDE A FIRM NUMBERS TO, TO THE CITY TO ON THAT OPTION. AND IT'S CERTAINLY NOT IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PLANNED FOR IN THE FUTURE IF IT CAN'T BE REALIZED IN THE INITIAL BUILD OUT, IT'S NOT IT'S A NICE TO HAVE. IT'S NOT TO HAVE TO HAVE AN ELEMENT OF THE PROJECT. I'D LIKE TO SEE IT. AND SO ARE WE TALKING LIKE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OR ARE WE IN FOR I WE HAVE A COST ESTIMATOR ON STAFF, AND I DIDN'T ASK HIM TO COME TONIGHT. AND I DON'T WANT TO SPECULATE. I CAN WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION TO THE CITY AND HELP MAKE A DECISION. I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANT TO GUESS IN FRONT OF A MICROPHONE. YEAH. NO, I, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND, BUT FOR ME, IT'S I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR I THINK IT'S A BEAUTIFUL IDEA. WE THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE THINK, YOU KNOW, IT'S THIS BUILDING IS, IS THE SISTER ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE LIBRARY AND IT'S, THEY'RE RELATED TO ONE ANOTHER AND THEY'RE PART OF THE CIVIC DOWNTOWN ENVIRONMENT. SO WE THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY IF WE CAN REALIZE THAT WE CERTAINLY WILL. AWESOME. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. APPRECIATE YOU, MR. MORENO. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I THINK THE RECOMMENDATION OF, OF THIS COMMISSION HERE IS OPTION ONE. WHITE RIGHT OR TERRACOTTA, WHATEVER. WELL, DEEPEN THE ADDITIONAL LITTLE DROP OF PAINT [00:25:04] MIGHT IT MIGHT INCREASE IT MIGHT INCREASE IT WOULD BE AN OPTION TO DO. WHAT'S THAT LED. WELL THAT'S IT REMAINS TO BE SEEN. RIGHT. I MEAN IT'S WITHIN SCOPE. SO MAYBE THE ECONOMICAL OPTION ONE COULD HELP BRING THAT LED SCREEN. RIGHT. SO IT DEPENDS. RIGHT. I SEE IT MORE AS A MAYBE PERHAPS WE CAN FIND COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO HELP US REALIZE THAT PART TOO. WE CAN INCORPORATE THE LED INTO THE OPTION ONE. IS THAT CORRECT OR. YEAH I THINK IT'S ON THERE OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. [PUBLIC HEARING CALENDAR (QUASI-JUDICIAL)] MOVING OVER TO MOVING ITEM NUMBER SEVEN UP ON THE AGENDA. SO COACHELLA VALLEY GROWERS CUP 345 MODIFICATION. THE PROPOSED CUP 345 MODIFICATION IS TO MODIFY CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL NUMBER 23 TO AMEND RESPONSIBILITIES OF STREET IMPROVEMENTS FOR FILLMORE STREET FOR COACHELLA VALLEY GROW PROJECT LOCATED ON 79.39 ACRES AT 5501 FILLMORE STREET, MISS FERNANDEZ. HI. GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. ANAHI FERNANDEZ, MANAGEMENT ANALYST FOR THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT. AND I'LL BE PRESENTING ON THIS ITEM. SO HERE IS AN IMAGE OF THE VICINITY MAP. PROJECT LOCATION IS HIGHLIGHTED IN RED. IT IS PART OF THE GENERAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGNATION. ZONING IS ALSO GENERAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD. THE PROJECT WHERE THE CULTIVATION IS CURRENTLY HAPPENING IS UNDER GENERAL NEIGHBORHOOD. BOTH OF THE DESIGNATIONS ARE FOR OUTDOOR CULTIVATION. THE TOTAL AREA IS 79.39 ACRES, BUT THE CULTIVATION IS CURRENTLY HAPPENING ONLY ON 20 ACRES OF THAT PROPERTY. A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND. SO THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 345 WAS APPROVED IN JANUARY OF 19, 2022, AS PART OF RESOLUTION NUMBER PC 2021 DASH 27 AND THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT DOES HAVE A CONDITION OF APPROVAL, THAT REQUIRES THE APPLICANT TO PAY A FAIR SHARE CONTRIBUTION TO THE CITY FOR STREET IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THE ENTIRE FRONTAGE OF THE PROPERTY. A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE PROJECT. THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE AN INTERIM OUTDOOR CULTIVATION PROJECT. THE TOTAL HOOP HOUSES THE PROJECT WILL HAVE IS 168. RIGHT NOW, THAT'S NOT THE CASE, BECAUSE THE EXISTING OUTDOOR CULTIVATION IS HAPPENING ON 20 ACRES. SO THE APPLICANT STARTED GROWING BACK IN 2022. THEY STATED THAT THEY MADE NO REVENUE FROM THAT HARVEST DUE TO INFESTATION, PESTICIDE INFESTATION OF THE HARVEST. SO THEY MADE NO REVENUE FROM THAT AND THEY WERE UNABLE TO MAKE PAYMENTS FOR THE STREET IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL AS CANNABIS TAXES TO THE CITY. THEY RECENTLY STARTED GROWING AGAIN THIS YEAR IN MARCH OR APRIL, I BELIEVE. SO THEY DID SUBMIT A CANNABIS TAX REVENUE FOR THE PREVIOUS QUARTER, AND THEY'RE REQUESTING THIS MODIFICATION FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. SO EXISTING CONDITIONS OF THE SITE, FILLMORE STREET CONDITIONS TO THE LEFT. AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE IS DIRE NEED FOR IMPROVEMENTS AND FOR THAT STREET IMPROVEMENT, AND THEN TO THE RIGHT YOU'LL SEE THE PROPERTY FRONTAGE. NOT MUCH TO SEE YOU. YOU'LL SEE THE TWO PALM TREES IN THE FRONT, THE OPAQUE FENCING, AND YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE HOOP HOUSES TO THE OTHER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCING. SO WHAT? THE CONDITION OF APPROVAL ENTAILS THE MODIFICATION. SO THE ORIGINAL CONDITION OF APPROVAL STATES THAT THE TOTAL CONTRIBUTION FOR STREET IMPROVEMENTS IS 168,000. THAT CONTRIBUTION WILL INCREASE TO 202,000. TOTAL JUST BECAUSE OF THE COST. THERE IS INCREASE FROM THE PREVIOUS TWO YEARS TO THE COST, THE INITIAL CUP STATED THAT THE PAYMENTS WOULD HAVE TO BE IN TWO. THE FIRST PAYMENT IS 50,000, SECOND PAYMENT 118,000. BUT NOW THEY'RE ASKING FOR A TOTAL OF SEVEN PAYMENTS, THAT WILL BE THE FIRST PAYMENT OF 20,000 AFTER THE CUP APPROVAL. AND THEN SIX ADDITIONAL PAYMENTS AFTER THAT. THEY ARE EXPECTING TWO HARVESTS PER YEAR. THEREFORE, THE PAYMENTS WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE AFTER EACH HARVEST, SO THAT WOULD BE TWO ADDITIONAL PAYMENTS PER YEAR FOR A TOTAL OF 36 MONTHS. THE INITIAL PAYMENTS WERE SUPPOSED TO BE DUE IN 12 MONTHS OF THE CUP APPROVAL. SO IT EXTENDS THE TIME THAT THEY HAVE TO MAKE THOSE PAYMENTS AND THE NUMBER OF PAYMENTS THAT THEY WILL BE, GIVEN TO THE CITY FOR THE STREET IMPROVEMENTS, ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW. SO THIS PROJECT IS EXEMPT FROM SEQUA BECAUSE IT'S JUST PROPOSING A MODIFICATION TO THE CONDITION OF APPROVAL. IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE SCOPE OF THE OPERATIONS FOR THE OUTDOOR CANNABIS CULTIVATION. AND WE DO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF RESOLUTIO. PC 20 2414 APPROVING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 3345 MODIFICATION, ACCEPTING THIS AMENDMENT TO THE FILLMORE STREET IMPROVEMENT REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CV GROVES PROJECT. AND THAT'S THE END OF MY PRESENTATION. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL MAY HAVE. ALL RIGHT. [00:30:03] THANK YOU SO MUCH. BEFORE WE, ASK ANY QUESTIONS, I'D LIKE TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. THE TIME IS 631, IF THERE'S ANYBODY OUT IN THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, PLEASE COME UP. I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS ALSO ONLINE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON THIS TOPIC? ANYBODY ONLINE, IF THERE'S ANYBODY ONLINE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. ONE MOMENT. GO AHEAD. HI, COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS LAURA GONZALEZ ON BEHALF OF COACHELLA VALLEY FLOWER GROWERS, I JUST WANTED TO THANK STAFF FOR WORKING WITH OUR TEAM TO PUT TOGETHER THIS CUP MODIFICATION. YOU KNOW, WE UNDERSTOOD FROM THE GET GO WHEN THIS PROJECT GOT GOING THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS AN INHERENT RISK IN BEING FIRST AND CERTAINLY GROWING CANNABIS IN AN OUTDOOR ENVIRONMENT IN THE DESERT FIT THAT BILL. BUT THROUGH THE UPS AND DOWNS, WE REMAIN COMMITTED TO SEEING THIS PROJECT BE SUCCESSFUL ULTIMATELY FOR THE TO THE BENEFIT OF THE CITY AS WELL AS THE MANY EMPLOYEES THAT WILL ULTIMATELY HELP US MAKE THIS PROJECT SUCCESSFUL. MR. CHUCK NELSON, ONE OF THE OWNERS, IS ALSO ON THE LINE AND, CERTAINLY, FEEL FREE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS, WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. ALL RIGHT. PERFECT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, ORAZIO. ANYBODY ELSE IN THE CROWD OR ONLINE? THERE ARE NO FURTHER HANDS RAISED. SEEING THAT THERE ARE NONE, I'D LIKE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 633. ALL RIGHT. WHAT ARE THE WISHES OF THIS COMMISSION, ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT? WE CAN START. I HAVE A QUESTION. ALL RIGHT. SHOOT WHETHER IT BE THE APPLICANT OR STAFF. DID WERE THERE ANY. I MEAN, I KNOW I JUST HEARD, YOU KNOW, THAT IN 2010, THERE WAS A REGROW. WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN 2022 AND 2023. SO IF 2022 WAS A BAD CROP, YOU KNOW, BAD TIME FOR CANNABIS BECAUSE OF THE PESTICIDES. WHAT HAPPENED THEN IN 2023, WAS THERE A GROW AT THAT TIME? THEY STOPPED OPERATING. WE JUST SKIPPED OKAY. THAT WAS ONE OF MY CLARIFYING QUESTIONS. AND THEN AS FAR AS THE REPAYMENT PLAN, CAN WE GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE? BECAUSE I WAS JUST DOING SOME CALCULATIONS JUST BECAUSE, YEAH, JUST SOMETHING CAME TO MIND. THANK YOU. SO FOR THE MODIFICATION. WHEN YOU SAY TOTAL CONTRIBUTION, THAT WOULD BE WHAT THE CITY IS DISCUSSING WITH THE APPLICANT TO COME UP WITH THAT RESOLUTION TO BRING THAT MONEY FOR THE STREET IMPROVEMENT, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING? THAT'S A TOTAL AMOUNT. YES. AND WHAT IS THE DEADLINE TIME FRAME? BECAUSE I KNOW I SEE THE ANALYSIS COMPONENT, BUT CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH THAT A LITTLE BIT OF WHEN WE BECAUSE IT SAYS 336 MONTHS, RIGHT. YES. SO THE 20,000 WOULD BE DUE, AFTER THE CUP APPROVAL. AND THEN AFTER THAT IT'S TWO ADDITIONAL CONSECUTIVE PAYMENTS EACH YEAR FOR OF 30,000 FOR THE STREET IMPROVEMENTS, SO THAT THE PAYMENT SHOULD BE DONE BY THE 36 MONTHS FROM, FROM TODAY. YES. UNDERSTOOD. OKAY. THAT'S WHERE I NEEDED CLARIFICATION OKAY. SO A TOTAL OF SEVEN PAYMENTS WENT UP TODAY AND THEN SIX MORE. SO 2 TO 2. BUT WITHIN 36 MONTHS. YES. AND THEN AFTER THAT IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL PAYMENTS OR IS IT OR IS IT THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT'S AGREED UPON. THE TOTAL AMOUNT SHOULD ALREADY BE PAID OFF. AND YEAH, THE APPLICANT DID MENTION IF THEY DO MAKE MORE REVENUE FROM THE HARVEST, THEY WILL GIVE ADDITIONAL PAYMENTS TO THE CITY TO BE DONE WITH BEFORE THE 36 MONTHS. OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT STIPULATION THERE. I HAVE A QUESTION, SO IN THE FUTURE, IF THE STREETS GO DEAR AGAIN, ARE WE GONNA WHO'S GOING TO BE IN CHARGE OF REPAIRING THE STREETS? BECAUSE SINCE THEY ALREADY PAID, YOU'LL BE PAYING OVER 200 K. YEAH. SO IT'S IN CONDITION OF APPROVAL. SO IF THEY DON'T FOLLOW WHAT THE CONDITION OF APPROVAL, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND PROCEED WITH REVOCATION OF THE CUP. AND THEN THAT WOULD BE THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE STREET IMPROVEMENTS. WAS THERE A LANDSCAPE PLAN ALSO INCLUDED ON THE ORIGINAL CUP? NO, NO. LANDSCAPE PLAN. LANDSCAPE PLAN. SO IS THE AGREEMENT STILL WITH THE PREVIOUS OWNERS THAT ORIGINALLY PROPOSED, WE HAD AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CUP ON OR OR DIFFERENT THE DIFFERENT OWNERS. NOW IT'S THE SAME OWNER, SAME APPLICANT. THEY JUST WANT TO MODIFY THAT CONDITION OF APPROVAL OKAY. SO THEY'RE AWARE OF WHAT THEIR. YES. YEAH. SO THE LANDSCAPE PLAN WAS NOT CONDITIONED AS A PART OF THE ORIGINAL CUP. SO I KNOW THAT THAT THERE WAS A COMMENT MADE THAT IN THE ORIGINAL CUP, THERE WAS ONLY A 12 MONTH AGREEMENT. CORRECT SO IS THAT THE [00:35:06] DIFFERENCE IN MONEY? IS THAT LIKE AN INTEREST THAT IS BEING CHARGED BECAUSE OF THE MONEY THAT HAS NOT BEEN 10% MORE? OH, SORRY. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. OKAY. THAT ANSWERED MY QUESTION. SO THEN BECAUSE OF THAT REASON, WE'RE EXTENDING TWO WHOLE YEARS. YES. FOR 15 EXTRA PERCENT. YEAH. SO WE'RE EXTENDING IT BECAUSE THEY NEED MORE TIME TO PAY THE TOTAL. SO THE TOTAL WENT UP BECAUSE OF THE COST. COST WENT UP. SO THE TOTAL WENT UP BECAUSE OF THAT. BUT WE'RE JUST GIVING THEM THE ADDITIONAL MONTHS TO PAY AND PAY THOSE FEES, IF I MAY ASK. AND I KNOW THIS IS A WAY. SO HOW DID THE CITY DECIDE THAT 15% WAS THE RIGHT NUMBER? SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YEAH, THERE'S AN ALGORITHM THAT YOU USE FOR THAT. YEAH. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY ENGINEER HELPED US DETERMINE. SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANDREW CAN GO AHEAD AND ANSWER THAT QUESTION. SORRY ANDREW. IT'S MATERIAL INFLATION. YEAH. OKAY, NOT A PROBLEM. SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION EARLIER, THE CITY WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE STREET REPAIRS THE CITY WOULD TAKE ON A CIP PROJECT, THIS MONEY WOULD GET PUT INTO A DEPOSIT ACCOUNT. AND THEN AT ANY TIME IN THE FUTURE, WHEN THE CITY PERFORMS REPAIRS ON THE STREET, WE WOULD USE THE MONEY IN THAT DEPOSIT ACCOUNT TO GO TOWARDS THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. THANK YOU, AND AS FAR AS HOW THE NUMBERS ARE CALCULATED, IT'S JUST BASED OFF OF, STANDARD CONSTRUCTION COSTS FOR CONSTRUCTION. SO THE ORIGINAL ESTIMATE WAS BASED OFF OF AN ESTIMATE IN 2022. THIS ESTIMATE WAS BASED OFF OF THE CONSTRUCTION COST ESTIMATES FOR, WHAT THEY WOULD BE ANTICIPATED TO BE FOR NEXT YEAR. SO, ANDREW, AGAIN, I DON'T I DON'T BUT I WILL WRITE, SO OBVIOUSLY THE STREETS NEED WORK LIKE NOW RIGHT. SO THEN I KNOW, AS YOU SAID, THE MONEY'S GOING TO GO INTO AN ACCOUNT AND THEN MAKE REPAIRS. SO I'M ASSUMING THAT THERE IS A TIMELINE THAT ONCE SOME TYPE OF FUNDING IS ALREADY IN THE BANK, THAT STREETS ARE GOING TO BE FIXED. CORRECT. YES. OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? SPECIFIC STREETS THAT GET APPROVED FOR REPAIR, GOES THROUGH CITY COUNCIL. SO EACH STREET GOES THROUGH THE CITY COUNCIL RELATIVE TO, OUR ANNUAL BUDGET. WHAT WE HAVE FOR GENERAL FUND ALLOCATIONS OR MEASURE A ALLOCATIONS, SO THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE DECIDED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS BASED OFF OF, OFF OF NEED. AND IMPACT AND HOW THEY AFFECT THE COMMUNITY. WHAT'S THE DISTANCE ON WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING ON THE IMPROVEMENT. SO THEY'RE ONLY RESPONSIBLE FOR ONE HALF OF THE STREET ALONG THEIR ENTIRE FRONTAGE. SO 200FT, 400FT, 600FT. WELL THE TOTAL FRONT OF THEIR FRONTAGE. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. WHAT IS IT, WHAT IS IT, WHAT IS THE FRONTAGE OF, YOU KNOW, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE FRONTAGE IS? FRONTAGE, YEAH. SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING. BECAUSE THE. EXCUSE ME, DOES THE CLIENT DOES THE CLIENT, BY ANY CHANCE HAPPEN TO KNOW WHAT THE TOTAL FRONTAGE IS? CHUCK ROSSI, THE APPLICANT IS. IT'S FROM EVERY 50, ISN'T IT? FROM 5050 TOWARDS 5052, I THEY DO NOT ACTUALLY GO ALL THE WAY TO 50. THERE'S A PROPERTY THAT SEPARATES THEM FROM AVENUE 50. SO THEY ARE ONE LOT DOWN. OKAY. MAKES SENSE. OKAY. YEAH. IT'S ON FILLMORE. BUT I'M SAYING FROM 50. HOW FAR OUT IS IT? IS IT 20FT, 20 ACRES OF FRONTAGE? PROBABLY. WHEN I DID A QUICK ESTIMATE. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S 660FT. IT'S LIKE A QUARTER OF A MILE. OKAY. YEAH. ANY MORE WIDTH OR RATIO? AND FOR MR. CHUCK OR THE APPLICANTS IS, WILL THERE BE. I MEAN, THERE'S AN AGREEMENT ALREADY. WE'RE GOOD TO GO. THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY ISSUES WITH PAYMENT. THAT'S MY QUESTION IS THERE'S NO ISSUES LIKE EVERYTHING'S GOOD TO GO WITH THAT. THE APPLICANT STATING THAT THERE WON'T BE ANY ISSUES. AND THIS IS MORE FEASIBLE FOR THEM TO GIVE THOSE PAYMENTS. YEAH. UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT. ALL RIGHT. MY ONLY QUESTION. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. MY QUESTION IS TO THE CITY ENGINEE, OBVIOUSLY THE CITY COUNCIL DETERMINES WHEN AND WHERE. RIGHT. WHAT GETS PAVED, DO YOU KNOW OF ANY PLAN THAT'S OUT THERE FOR THIS STREET IN PARTICULAR, YES. FILLMORE IS LISTED ON OUR CIP LIST FOR THIS COMING YEAR. SO IT IS LISTED AS A AS A STREET THAT NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED. AND SO THEY WILL HAVE A PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE DATABASE FOR THE RATINGS OF ALL THE STREETS, I PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL MULTIPLE TIMES, WHERE WE NOW HAVE A, ACCESSIBLE SYSTEM WHERE IT SHOWS EVERY STREET IN THE CITY. WHAT, WHAT IT'S RATED. [00:40:06] SO YOU CAN KIND OF COMPARE WHICH STREETS HAVE THE MOST NEED, WHICH STREETS ARE, YOU KNOW, DON'T HAVE AS MUCH NEED. AND FILLMORE IS A I BELIEVE, ONE OF, IF NOT THE LOWEST RATED, PAVED STREET THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY AT THIS TIME. SO SO IT IS AT THE TOP OF THE LIST RELATIVE TO, NEEDS FOR REPAIR. I KNOW THAT FOR A WHILE. SO THESE FUNDS WILL HELP THE CITY ACTUALLY REALIZE THE CIP PROJECT AND BE ABLE TO HAVE THESE FUNDS CONTRIBUTE TO GETTING THE ENTIRE STRETCH DONE, ONE OF THE REASONS TO HAVE THIS BE A COST SHARE AGREEMENT, RATHER THAN THAN JUST GOING AND DOING THE STREET IMPROVEMENTS THEMSELVES, BECAUSE THAT ALLOWS THE CITY TO DO A CP, THE CIP PROJECT WHERE WE WOULD THE CITY WOULD TAKE ON THE MANAGEMENT SO THAT WE COULD PAY FOR THE ENTIRE STRETCH FROM AVENUE 50 ALL THE WAY DOWN TO AVENUE 52, RATHER THAN JUST HAVING TO REPAIR THEIR SHORT FRONTAGE AND THEN HAVE THE REST STILL BE A MESS. RIGHT? SO IT'S MORE BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY OVERALL TO HAVE THIS BE A COST SHARE SO THAT WE CAN MANAGE THE PROJECT AND FIX THE ENTIRE STREET, INSTEAD OF JUST A PORTION. SO IT'S GONNA BE FOR BOTH SIDES, RIGHT? NOT JUST THAT. YES. OKAY. PERFECT. YEAH. SO THAT WAY WHEN THE CITY MOVES FORWARD, WE'LL DO THE WHOLE STREET. ALL RIGHT. PERFECT. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT. WHAT ARE THE DESIRES OF THIS COMMISSION? CAN WE GET A MOTION? ANYBODY WANT TO PROPOSE SOMETHING? WE GOT? I MEAN, I'M IN AGREEMENT. I MEAN, IF IT'S THE ONLY WAY TO GET, YOU KNOW, SECURE THOSE FUNDS TO REPAIR AND MOVE FORWARD, I MEAN, I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT FERMENTATIO. SO I'LL MOVE FORWARD IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU, CHAIR, I'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION PC 2024 DASH 14 APPROVING CONDITIONAL USE OF PERMIT NUMBER 345 MODIFICATION AND MODIFICATION TO CONDITION OF APPROVAL NUMBER 23 TO AMEND FILLMORE STREET IMPROVEMENT REQUIREMENTS FOR THE COACHELLA VALLEY GROWERS PROJECT, LOCATED ON 79.39 ACRES AT 5501 FILLMORE STREET. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. YOU WANT A SECOND? WHO'S GOING TO SECOND? HE CAN SECOND. I'LL SECOND. PERFECT MOTION. WE GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE. OKAY COMMISSIONER. ALTERNATE COMMISSIONER FONSECA. YES. COMMISSIONER. MURILLO. YES COMMISSIONER. RAMIREZ. YES. VICE CHAIR. GONZALEZ YES. CHAIR. HERNANDEZ. YES, SIR. MOTION PASSES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. MOVING OVER TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, BMP NIGHTCLUB AND EVENT CENTER, ALCOHOL SALES AND ENTERTAINMENT ESTABLISHMENT PERMIT. ALL RIGHTY. HELLO. PLANNING COMMISSION AND CHAIR. MY NAME IS ADRIAN MORENO. I'LL BE PRESENTING THIS ITEM. SO THIS IS ENTERTAINMENT PERMIT 2401, A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 380 FOR A BAR, NIGHTCLUB AND SPECIAL EVENT CENTER TO ALLOW FOR LIVE EVENTS AND A REQUEST FOR TYPEKIT 48 ABC LICENSE TO ALLOW THE ON SALE OF BEER, WINE AND DISTILLED SPIRITS AT THE 5867 SQUARE FOOT COMMERCIAL SUITE AT 49974 CESAR CHAVEZ STREET. THE APPLICANT IS REYES HERNANDEZ WITH ASSOCIATES ELISE ALICIA SIGLER AND SAMANTHA AALIYAH HERNANDEZ. THE VICINITY MAP HERE IS SHOWS THE SITE IN HIGHLIGHTED IN RED, AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE BOTTOM LEFT IMAGE, IN HIGHLIGHTED RED. THAT'S WHERE THE TENANT SPACE IS GOING TO BE FOR THIS PROJECT. THE GENERAL PLAN IS DOWNTOWN CENTER. THE ZONING IS DOWNTOWN PUEBLO VIEJO, AND THE AREA IS 0.44 ACRES FOR THE LOT. A BIT OF BACKGROUND, REYES HERNANDEZ HAS OPERATED OTHER ESTABLISHMENTS THAT INCLUDE VIVA MEXICO, TAX AND TRAVEL AND PREVIOUSLY MILENIO SINALOA WITHIN THE CITY OF COACHELLA. PROJECT DESCRIPTION FOR THIS BAR, NIGHTCLUB AND EVENT CENTER. SO THEIR OPERATION HOURS WILL BE MONDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY FROM 2 P.M. TO 10 P.M. FROM THURSDAY THROUGH SUNDAY, 2 P.M. TO 2 A.M, AND LIVE ENTERTAINMENT HOURS FROM THURSDAY THROUGH SUNDAY, 9 P.M. TO 2 P.M. AGAIN THOSE THURSDAY THROUGH SUNDAY HOURS ARE A BIT EXTENDED BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN THE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT HOURS ARE GOING TO BE, AND SPECIAL EVENT RENTAL HOURS WILL BE FROM WEDNESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 2 P.M. TO 10 P.M. AND HERE'S THE SITE PLAN. SO HIGHLIGHTED THERE IN DASHED LINE IS THE TENANT SPACE, THERE'S A LINE CUE PLAN FOR, YOU KNOW, EVENTS WHEN EVENTS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN. AND AT THE BOTTOM THERE IS SITE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE CENTER, [00:45:02] WHICH I'LL BE GOING ON, OVER A LITTLE BIT IN THE FUTURE IN THE PRESENTATION. SO THIS IS THE FLOOR PLAN FOR THE PROJECT. THIS IS THE FLOOR PLAN THAT SHOWS 403 OCCUPANTS FOR THIS PROJECT. THERE'S GOING TO BE THREE DIFFERENT FLOOR PLANS WITH A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT OCCUPANT SIZES. SO THE APPLICANT CAN PICK AND CHOOSE, YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENT FLOOR PLANS FOR THEIR, YOU KNOW, EVENTS. RIGHT. AND THERE'S GOING TO BE TABLE CHAIRS, A DANCE FLOOR AREA, PORTABLE STAGE AREA, BAR SEATING, A BAR WAITING AREA FOR PEOPLE TO STAND TO ENJOY THE EVENTS. AND THE REASON THIS IS COMING UP TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TYPICALLY, ENTERTAINMENT PERMITS ARE FOR THE CITY COUNCIL, BUT BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BE A BAR, RIGHT, IT'S GOING TO NEED AN ABC LICENSE. AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE PRESENTING IT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TODAY. SO HERE IS THE TABLE OF THE ON SALE ALCOHOL LICENSES IN CENSUS TRACT 9404. SO CENSUS TRACT NINE 404 IS THAT BLUE HIGHLIGHTED AREA YOU CAN SEE ON THE RIGHT IMAGE. AND THERE'S 20, ABC LICENSES IN THIS VICINITY, BUT WITHIN THE 700 FOOT DISTANCE, THERE IS ONLY THREE SENSITIVE USES RIGHT. SO ON SALE ESTABLISHMENTS MAY NOT FALL WITHIN 700FT OF SENSITIVE USES. WITHIN 700FT IS THE PIZZA HUT RESTAURANT AND THE CARNITAS LA PIEDAD RESTAURANT. AND I HIGHLIGHTED TO THE NORTH OF THE PROJECT ABC, ABC OF WHERE THOSE ARE LOCATED. AND AGAIN, THEY'RE WITHIN THE 700 FOOT DISTANCE AND THERE ARE RESIDENTIAL USES WITHIN THE 700 FOOT DISTANCE, SO IT'S 692 FOOT DISTANCE FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. YOU'D HAVE TO CROSS CESAR CHAVEZ STREET. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CROSS AVENUE 50 AND TO THE SOUTHWEST CORNER THERE. AND I MARKED IT AS RESIDENTIAL. SECURITY SO YEAH, I COULD GO OVER THE SECURITY CONDITIONS AND THE SECURITY PLAN FOR THE PROJECT. SO THERE IS GOING TO BE A SECURITY PLAN REQUIRED FOR THE PROJECT. AND THERE IS ONE IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT. SO SECURITY REQUIRED. SO FROM 0 TO 50 GUESTS ONE SECURITY GUARD IS GOING TO BE REQUIRED FROM 50 TO 250 GUESTS. FIVE SECURITY GUARDS IS GOING TO BE REQUIRED. AND FOR EVENTS THAT ARE 250 PLUS GUESTS ARE GOING TO REQUIRE FIVE SECURITY GUARDS PLUS ONE ADDITIONAL GUARD PER 50 ADDITIONAL GUESTS. SO IF YOU'RE AT 250, YOU CAN GUESS YOU'RE GOING TO NEED FIVE SECURITY. THE APPLICANT IS GOING TO NEED FIVE SECURITY. IF THEY'RE GOING TO DO 300, THEY HAVE TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL SECURITY GUARD. AND AGAIN THE APPLICANT COULD PROVIDE MORE SECURITY. BUT THESE ARE OUR MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS, AND FOR SO TO THE RIGHT IS A TABLE OF WHERE THOSE SECURITY'S ARE GOING TO BE LOCATED. WE WANT TO ENSURE THERE'S AT LEAST ONE SECURITY GUARD IN THE PARKING LOT MONITORING AND MONITORING. THERE'S GOING TO BE AT LEAST TWO AT THE MAIN ENTRANCE AND AT LEAST TWO IN THE INTERIOR ENTRANCE, AND THEN IF THERE ARE MORE SECURITY GUARDS PROVIDED, THEN THERE CAN BE MORE ON THE PARKING LOT AREA, MORE IN THE INTERIOR, AND SUCH. THERE'S A LOT OF SECURITY CONDITIONS FOR THIS PROJECT. AGAIN, THERE'S A SECURITY PLAN REQUIRED FOR THIS PROJECT TO BE APPROVED BY CITY STAFF AND THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, CAMERA PLAN IS GOING TO BE REQUIRED FOR THE PROJECT. AND INSTALLATION OF CAMERAS TO ENSURE THAT IF THERE ARE ANY INCIDENTS THAT THE RIVERSIDE COUNTY SHERIFF IS ABLE TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT, GET THAT FOOTAGE, AND THEN ADDRESS THOSE ANY ISSUES THAT ARISE, AND THE THERE IS ALSO A CONDITION THAT THE POLICE HAVE THE ABILITY TO SHUT DOWN THE PROJECT OR SHUT DOWN THE BUSINESS TEMPORARILY IN CASE THERE ARE ANY KIND OF PUBLIC HAZARDS THAT ARISE FROM THE PROJECT, AND ALSO ANY CHANGES THAT THE APPLICANT MAY WANT TO DO. YOU KNOW, MAYBE ONE DAY THEY WANT TO HAVE AN EVENT THAT'S, MORE THAN WHAT IS ALLOWED FOR THIS PROJECT OR OCCUPANCY LOAD FOR THE PROJECTS, FOR THE THREE. MAYBE THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING 500. THEY COULD WORK WITH THE CITY MANAGER. THEN WORK WITH CITY STAFF AND OUTSIDE AGENCIES TO MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS FOR THOSE TEMPORARY EVENTS. RIGHT. SO THERE IS FLEXIBILITY FOR THE APPLICANT TO WORK WITH THE CITY STAFF. AND AGAIN, SO THIS IS GOING TO BE AN ENTERTAINMENT PERMIT. AND TYPICAL WITH THE ENTERTAINMENT PERMITS, THEY ARE ALLOWED FOR ONE YEAR. AND THEN AFTER THAT YEAR THEY HAVE TO COME BACK TO A PUBLIC HEARING AND GET IT APPROVED AGAIN AND CAN BE EXTENDED FOR ANOTHER THREE YEARS AFTER THAT. SO THAT YEAR PERIOD GIVES US TIME TO SEE HOW THE BUSINESS IS OPERATING. AND THEN AFTER THAT YEAR, AGAIN, PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL CAN MAKE A DETERMINATION THAT. SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE SECURITY REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PROJECT. AND AGAIN, WE DID, CONTACT LIEUTENANT VASQUEZ REGARDING THIS PROJECT. WE DID MEET WITH HIM AND HE IDENTIFIED NO ISSUES WITH THE PROJECT. AND AGAIN, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A SECURITY PLAN IN PLACE, AND WE ALSO HAVE SEVERAL SECURITY CONDITIONS FOR THIS PROJECT. AS FOR SITE IMPROVEMENTS, CITY STAFF DID WORK ■EXTENSIVELY TO [00:50:04] GET THESE SITE IMPROVEMENTS ONTO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. SOME OF THOSE SITE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE ARE REQUIRING IS REPLACING REPLACING OF MISSING LANDSCAPING ON THE IMAGE THERE. I NOTED THERE'S ABOUT 40 MISSING PLANTS THAT CITY STAFF WENT OUT THERE, SAW THAT THERE WAS SEVERAL MISSING PLANTS. SO WE WANT TO SEE THOSE MISSING LANDSCAPE TO BE PROVIDED. WE ARE REQUIRING TO ADD THREE QUARTER INCH GRAVEL TO THE SITE, THAT THERE ARE PAVEMENT IMPROVEMENTS, NEW TRASH ENCLOSURE TO LOOK COMPATIBLE WITH THE SITE, NEW SECURITY GATE IN THE REAR ENTRANCE. WE HAVE HAD, YOU KNOW, PEDESTRIAN AND VEHICLE TRESPASSERS WHICH HAVE BEEN LOITERING IN THE BACK AREA BEHIND THE TENANT SPACE. SO WE ARE REQUIRING A SECURITY GATE TO, YOU KNOW, MITIGATE THAT. AND WE ARE REQUIRING A NEW ADA RAMP AND REQUIRING THAT PARKING LOT. THE APPLICANT ENTER INTO A PARKING LOT AND LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT TO BE REQUIRED FOR THIS PROJECT. AS FOR SITE IMPROVEMENTS, HERE'S AN IMAGE OF WHAT THOSE SITE IMPROVEMENTS WILL LOOK LIKE. SO WE'RE REQUIRING THE REAR ENTRANCE TO BE PAVED. THERE'S A SECURITY GATE, A NEW ADA RAMP TO MAKE SURE THERE IS SAFE EXIT FOR ADA ACCESSIBILITY. THERE'S GOING TO BE A NEW TRASH ENCLOSURE TO LOOK COMPATIBLE WITH THE MAIN BUILDING AND A NEW PLANNER AREA THERE, SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF SITE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE REAR AREA. AND AS FOR PARKING, APPLICANT IS CONDITIONED TO PROVIDE A PARK SHARE AGREEMENT OR OTHER PARKING MEASURE TO MEET PARKING REQUIREMENTS. THE CENTER WAS CALCULATED THAT THEY WOULD REQUIRE 94 SPACES. THERE'S EXISTING USES THAT USE UP 57 SPACES, SO THE PROPERTY OWNER OWNS 120 PARKING SPACES, AND IN TOTAL, WITH THE NEW PROJECT, IT'S GOING TO BE 151 SPACES ARE GOING TO BE REQUIRED. SO THAT LEAVES 31 SPACES NEEDED. BUT AGAIN, THE CENTER PARKING LOT IS OWNED BY TWO OWNERS. RIGHT. AND WE CITY STAFF FOUND THAT THERE IS SUFFICIENT PARKING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT SAME PARKING LOT OWNED BY THE OTHER PROPERTY OWNER. SO AGAIN, THAT'S WHY WE'RE REQUIRING A PARK SHARE AGREEMENT OR OTHER PARKING MEASURE TO MEET THE PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR THE PROJECT. SO THROUGH THIS CONDITION OF APPROVAL, WE WILL ASSURE THAT THERE IS ENOUGH PARKING FOR THE PROJECT. AND HERE'S A LOOK AT THE SITE CONDITIONS. SO YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A CRACKING OF THE PARKING LOT IN FRONT OF THE TENANT SPACE. THERE IS MISSING LANDSCAPING AND HERE ARE THE SITE CONDITIONS OF THE REAR ENTRANCE. SO THIS IS THE REAR ENTRANCE AREA. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT GATED COMPLETELY TO STOP PEDESTRIAN, VEHICULAR. TRESPASSERS. AND THIS IS A BIT OF THE REAR ENTRANCE CONDITION. AND THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF, TRASH AND, YOU KNOW, PEDESTRIANS TRESPASSING THAT, CODE ENFORCEMENT HAS HAD TO, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH FOR THIS SITE. AND I DID WANT TO BRING UP THE GENERAL PLAN. RIGHT. SO THERE ARE GENERAL PLAN IN DOWNTOWN CENTER GOALS, RIGHT. SO SOME OF THE GOALS OF THE GENERAL PLAN IS TO INCENTIVIZE TOURISM AND ENTERTAINMENT, THE OTHER GOAL IS TO PURSUE ONE OR MORE MAJOR ENTERTAINMENT DESTINATIONS FOR COACHELLA RESIDENTS AND TO DRAW VISITORS FROM AROUND THE REGION AND TO PURSUE PERFORMING ARTS VENUES, YOU KNOW, CITY STAFF BELIEVES THIS PROJECT WILL BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THOSE GOALS, BRINGING IN ENTERTAINMENT FOR CITY RESIDENTS AND PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE CITY. AS WELL FROM ACROSS THE REGION AND FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW. CITY STAFF FOUND THAT IT IS COMPLIANT WITH SEQUA, AS THIS IS A COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE INVOLVING NEGLIGIBLE OR NO EXPANSION OF EXISTING OR FORMER COMMERCIAL USE ON THE PROPERTY, AND OUR RECOMMENDATION STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVE A RESOLUTION 20 2416 AND RESOLUTION 20 2417 RECOMMENDING THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE ENTERTAINMENT PERMIT NUMBER 20 401 AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 380. AND AGAIN, THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION FOR CITY COUNCIL APPROVED. THEY WOULD BE THE FINAL APPROVING BODY FOR THE PROJECT. THANK YOU. AWESOME. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. MORENO, BEFORE WE ASK ANY QUESTIONS, I'D LIKE TO OPEN TO THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 655 FOR V V MP NIGHTCLUB AND EVENT CENTER. ALCOHOL SALES AND ENTERTAINMENT ESTABLISHMENT PERMIT. ENTERTAINMENT PERMIT NUMBER 20 401, IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS DAIS? ANYBODY ONLINE? DOES ANYBODY ONLINE? PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND? I SEE NONE. I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS [00:55:02] HERE. OVER ZOOM. OKAY. DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I DO, ALL RIGHT. CAN THE APPLICANT APPROACH THE PODIUM AND OR EVEN. HERE'S THE APPLICANT'S NAME. BELINDA OR REYES? I SEE BELINDA. YEAH. BELINDA, GO AHEAD AND UNMUTE IF YOU'D LIKE TO TALK. LINDA, DO YOU HAVE A MICROPHONE? I'M NOT SURE IF SHE'S ABLE TO TALK OR HAS A MICROPHONE. OKAY, I HAVE QUESTIONS. THEN MAYBE THE, THAT YOU CAN HELP ME, ADRIAN, WITH THIS. SO I KNOW IN THE REPORT WE TALKED ABOUT SNACKS, BUT IN YOUR REPORT YOU DID NOT MENTION ANYTHING ABOUT SMALL SNACKS LIKE NACHOS, CHIPS AND SO FORTH. IS THAT STILL BEING CONSIDERED BY THE APPLICANT? THAT'S PART OF THE PROJECT. SO IT'S JUST GOING TO BE SMALL SNACKS LIKE NACHOS. AND YEAH, SMALL SNACKS LIKE THAT. PERFECT. AND THEN IT JUST WAS NOT IN YOUR REPORT. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I MADE THE CONNECTION. IF ANYTHING HAD CHANGED, THE OTHER QUESTION, IN YOUR SECURITY REPORT, YOU DID NOT MENTION METAL DETECTORS. AND THAT'S WHAT LIEUTENANT VASQUEZ HAD RECOMMENDED, SO IS THAT STILL BEING CONSIDERED OR. IT'S OFF. RIGHT. IT'S ALREADY A CONDITION OF APPROVAL FOR THE PROJECT. IT'S NUMBER 19, CONDITION OF APPROVAL. AND THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT LIEUTENANT VASQUEZ NOTED, AND WE MADE SURE IT WAS STILL ON THE BOOKS. STILL, IT'S STILL PART OF THE PLAN. OKAY, GOOD. BECAUSE THAT WAS IT WAS NOT IN YOUR REPORT, CAN YOU HOLD ON? YEAH. GO AHEAD. I'D LIKE TO ANY MORE. ANYBODY LIKE TO ADDRESS? GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE. ALL RIGHT. I'D LIKE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 658. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU MAY CONTINUE. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SORRY ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. SO THERE'S ALSO A SECTION IN THE REPORT THAT WE RECEIVED IN THE AGENDA THAT TALKED ABOUT ABC EXPRESSING SOME CONCERN ABOUT A CONCENTRATION AREA WITH ALCOHOL PERMITS. WAS THERE ANY CONCERN WITH THAT? BECAUSE I WAS NOT CLEAR IN YOUR REPORT AND WHAT I READ. RIGHT. SO FOR THE ABC CONCENTRATION, IT'S, LET ME BRING IT UP HERE BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT'S LIKE MORE THAN FIVE. THEN IT'S LIKE OVER CONCENTRATED. BUT WE HAVE ABOUT 20 EVEN SUSPENDED OR CONSIDERED. RIGHT? YEAH AND SO YEAH. SO IF WITHIN 700FT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE THESE SENSITIVE USES. RIGHT. BUT, PLANNING COMMISSION, WOULD NEED TO MAKE THE FINDINGS THAT THIS PROJECT, WHAT IS IT THE BENEFIT OF THE PROJECT JUSTIFIES THE DISTANCE, RIGHT? YEAH PERFECT. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT, ALSO, WHAT TYPE OF MUSIC WILL THEY BE PLAYING AT THIS EVENT WHEN IT'S THE OWNERS HOSTING THEIR EVENTS? WHAT TYPE OF MUSIC ARE THEY TRYING OR LIKE? WHAT IS THE AUDIENCE? THEY'RE TRYING TO APPEAL BECAUSE IT SAYS 21 AND UP BECAUSE OF ALCOHOL. RIGHT? RIGHT COULD YOU. YEAH, THEY'RE TRYING TO HAVE A DIFFERENT A VARIETY OF TYPE OF EVENTS LIKE FOR LIVE EVENTS. THEY WANT TO, YOU KNOW, VENTURE INTO LIKE COMEDY, LIVE MUSIC AND SUCH. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHICH BANDS THEY'RE REALLY TRYING TO BRING HERE TO THE CITY OF COACHELLA, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO. AND ALSO THEY'RE ALSO TRYING AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, TRYING TO GET SPECIAL EVENTS AS WELL, TO BE A SPECIAL EVENT RENTALS TO HOST QUINCEANERAS BIRTHDAYS AND SUCH. SO AS FAR AS LET'S GO BACK TO THE LIQUOR LICENSE AND IT GOES BACK TO THAT, YOU KNOW, PART ABOUT TEMPORARY EVENTS SUCH AS THOSE QUINCEANERAS EVENTS OR WEDDINGS OR FUNCTIONS OR MIXERS, RIGHT? THEY HAVE TO THEN GET A PERMIT FROM THE CITY TO DO TO HOST THEIR EVENT. IS THAT CORRECT? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I READ. RIGHT. SO THIS ENTERTAINMENT PERMIT GIVES THE SCOPE OF BEING ABLE TO DO, YOU KNOW, LIVE ENTERTAINMENT AND ALSO SPECIAL EVENTS. IT'S ALREADY IN THE SCOPE IF THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF THE PERMIT, LIKE HAVING, YOU KNOW, 403 IS OUR OCCUPANCY LIKE LIMIT, RIGHT? IF THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING GREATER, THEY CAN. RIGHT? IF THEY WANT TO DO ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF THE PERMIT, THEY CAN, BUT THEY HAVE TO WORK WITH THE CITY MANAGER DOES THE LIQUOR WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO STORE THAT 5% OR WHATEVER. WHERE WAS WHERE WOULD THAT BE? BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN THE IN THE SCALE OR IN THE PLAN. YOU KNOW, HOW LIKE IN OTHER LIQUOR STORES OR MINI MARKETS, WE SEE WHERE THEY STORE THAT. WHERE WOULD THAT BE STORED HERE? YEAH. SO UNFORTUNATELY I DIDN'T HIGHLIGHT IT, BUT IT IS IN THE BAR AREA. JUST TO THE BOTTOM OF THE PICTURE IS GOING TO BE CABINETS OKAY. FOR STORAGE. RIGHT. AND ALSO IN THE OFFICE AREA THERE'S GOING TO BE ALSO A CABINET FOR LIQUOR STORAGE. SO THAT IS THE EXPECTED SCOPE OF THE LIQUOR STORAGE. AND DISPLAY AREA FOR THE PROJECT. UNDERSTOOD AND THEN WHEN WE SAY 21 AND UP, HELP ME UNDERSTAND FOR THE CUP AND FOR THE ENTERTAINMENT, LET'S JUST SAY I'M THE APPLICANT, I'M HOSTING A MIXER. DO THEY HAVE TO BE 21 AND UP TO DRINK OR I MEAN, [01:00:07] HOW DOES THAT WORK WHEN THEY HAVE LIKE A BIRTHDAY PARTY OR IF IT'S A, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE WHOLE ABC, YOU HAVE TO BE 21 AND UP. HOW DOES THAT WORK? I DON'T KNOW. SO THAT IS THE APPLICANTS DESIRES FOR THIS PROJECT TO BE 21 AND OVER. BUT YOU KNOW, OUR CITY CODE DOES ALLOW FOR EVENTS THAT ARE 18 PLUS AND OVER. SO IF THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, GOING TO DO SOME EVENTS THAT WOULD INCLUDE 18 PLUS, THEY WOULD HAVE TO, PROVIDE MEASURES PER OUR CITY CODE THAT IDENTIFIES WHO ARE THOSE 18 TO 21 AND THOSE 21 AND OVER. HOW ABOUT MINORS LIKE IT'S A BIRTHDAY PARTY, RIGHT? HOW DOES THAT WORK? JUST SO FOR MY OWN EDIFICATION. RIGHT. HOW DOES THAT WORK? BECAUSE I BROUGHT THAT IN HERE. THAT'S LIKE, OH FOR 21 AND UP. BUT THEY HAVE TO HAVE. SO ALL THE EVENTS THAT THEY HOST HAVE TO BE 21 AND UP. RIGHT? RIGHT. SO QUINCEANERAS WOULD BE OFF. RIGHT. SO THEY'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE SPECIAL EVENTS LIKE WEDDINGS WITH WITH CHILDRE, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE RUN THE SAME WAY AS THEY WOULD HAVE LIKE A NIGHTCLUB. THE I GUESS THE MUSIC THEY HOST AT NIGHTTIME. SO FOR THOSE EVENTS, THEY'LL HAVE TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN 18 AND 21, JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE ANY OTHER SPECIAL EVENTS HALL, THEY WOULD HAVE CHILDREN THAT THEY CAN HAVE, LIKE DURING THE DAY. OKAY. SO JUST. YEAH, CURIOUS. AND THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST, WHEN WE SAY LAST CALL IS AT 130, IS THAT THE LIKE THE LAST TIME YOU CAN HAVE LIKE A SHOT, A BEER, WHATEVER YOU WANT OR IS IT LIKE BEFORE 130. HELP ME UNDERSTAND THAT. IS IT AT 130, THE LAST DRINK YOU CAN HAVE? OR IS IT BEFORE 130? RIGHT. IT WOULD BE AT 130. WOULD BE THE LAST CALL. RIGHT. AND THAT IS A MEASURE THAT IS REQUIRED BY ABC. NO. YEAH BUT I WAS JUST JUST WANTING TO DIFFERENTIATE, JUST CURIOSITY SORRY GUYS. BUT OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL FOR ME. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. COMMISSIONER FONSECA. JUST ONE. ONE. I GUESS FOR ME, THE BIG THING IS, IS HAVING AN EVENT CENTER, WE'RE LOOKING I'M LOOKING AT IT, AND IT SEEMS VERY SMALL. RIGHT. JUST BY. BY LOOKING AT IT. I'M HERE ON GOOGLE MAPS, KIND OF LOOKING AT, AT THIS, THAT, THIS, AT THE, AT THE, THE, THE SPACE. RIGHT. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY I ALSO FEEL THAT IT'S, IT'S MOSTLY A SHOPPING CENTER. YOU GOT A LATINOS THERE, YOU GOT THE DOLLAR TREE AND, AND, AND THE, THE SAME OR NOT. SAINT MARK, WHAT IS IT? THE SMART AND FINAL. THANK YOU, AND THE OTHER SIDE. SO HAVING AN EVENT CENTER THERE, I MEAN, DID I GUESS MY QUESTION IS YOU AS STAFF AND OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE CAN BUILD THEIR OWN BUSINESSES, RIGHT. BUT I THINK AS, AS, AS A CITY, IS THIS THE RIGHT LOCATION? AGAIN, I'M NOT THE BUSINESS. RIGHT. I'M JUST ASKING WHY, I GUESS LOGIC OF THE CITY, WHY WOULD THE CITY THINK THAT HAVING SOMETHING LIKE THIS AT A STRIP MALL LIKE THIS, THE APPROPRIATE SPOT FOR THIS PARTICULAR EVENT, REQUIREMENT, I GUESS I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHY THERE, YOU KNOW, AND I GET IT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S IT'S CAPITALISM. ANYBODY CAN HAVE THEIR BUSINESS WHEREVER THEY WANT, BUT I'M. BUT BUT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HAVING SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND THEN, AS WE ALL KNOW, IS GOING TO BE A LOT OF CARS THERE. I CAN ALREADY FEEL JOSE RODARTE SAYING SOMETHING ABOUT IT NEXT DOOR WITH LATINOS. RIGHT. AND PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, BUT JUST HAVING THAT, I GUESS FOR CITY CODE AND EVERYTHING, IT'S JUST IF WE DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD AND APPROVE OF THIS, THE DYNAMICS OF THAT STRIP MALL IS GOING TO CHANGE DRAMATICALLY, RIGHT? BECAUSE IT'S JUST GOING TO HAPPEN. RIGHT? SO I GUESS, IS THE CITY READY FOR THAT OR TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION, EVEN WITH ALL THESE MEASURES? RIGHT AND AGAIN, EVEN WITH THE POINT THAT YOU JUST SAID IT'S FOR A YEAR, THEN THEY'LL COME BACK AND REITERATE. SO I JUST WANT TO PUT IT OUT THERE AND JUST I'M THINKING ABOUT IT IN REGARDS TO NOT NECESSARILY SAFETY, BUT IS IT THE RIGHT SPOT. RIGHT. AND THEN THERE'S SO MANY ACCIDENTS COMING OUT OF THAT, COMING OUT OF THAT, OUT OF, OUT OF THAT STRIP MALL INTO 111 PEOPLE WANT TO MAKE A LEFT TURN WHEN THEY SHOULDN'T AND MAKE A RIGHT. AND SO I'M JUST THINKING OUT LOUD, YOU KNOW, IS THAT THE RIGHT SPOT FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS? AND THAT'S AS A, AS A COMMISSIONER AND ALSO AS A COMMUNITY MEMBER? I'M JUST THINKING OUT LOUD. THANK YOU SO MUCH. VICE CHAIR. YEAH, I WAS GOING TO ASK AS A STAFF VISITED THE LOCATION AT NIGHT. AT NIGHT, I HAVEN'T, BUT MAYBE GABRIEL HAS, BUT WE BROUGHT IT UP IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS ON THE SITUATION WITH WITH THE FAMILY DOLLAR IN TERMS OF THE PARKING AT NIGHT. THAT'S TERRIBLE OUT THERE. IF YOU GO THERE AT NIGHT, IT'S LIKE PRACTICALLY DARK OUT THERE. AND, YOU KNOW, WE BROUGHT IT UP. I BROUGHT IT UP THE LAST TIME IN REFERENCE TO THE FAMILY DOLLAR. SO THAT WHOLE PARKING LOT IS JUST TERRIBLE, SMART AND FINAL. IF YOU GO OUT THERE AT NIGHT, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL GET A [01:05:07] GOOD IDEA OF WHAT I'M REFERRING TO. BUT I HAVE CONCERNS WITH THE PARKING THAT, LIGHTING IN THAT AREA. SO I WOULD RECOMMEND, YOU KNOW, I'M WILLING TO APPROVE THE PROJECT, BUT I THINK WITH THE CONDITION OR STIPULATION THAT WE REVISIT THAT PARKING LOT AND, AND LOOK AT IT, IF IT'S ADEQUATE FOR THAT WHOLE SPACE AND, AND I'M, I'M REFERRING TO ALL THREE OF THOSE BUSINESSES OR ALL FOUR OF THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE THERE, WHICH IS TERRIBLE. THE LIGHTING IS NOT SAFE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND THEY ALSO COMMISSIONER AUDIO, MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT THAT AREA IS A IT'S A PRETTY BIG HOTSPOT FOR HOMELESS. SO, IS IT ASSUMED THAT ONCE THIS PROJECT IS PULLED IN, IT'S GOING TO GET CLEARED OUT AUTOMATICALLY, OR IS THERE A PLAN TO CLEAR IT OUT? RIGHT. AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, THERE ARE SECURITY MEASURES TO ENSURE THAT AS PART OF THE OPERATION OF THE PROJECT, THAT, THEY WILL TRY TO, THROUGH THE SECURITY RIGHT, TO HAVE PEOPLE NOT LOITER IN THE AREA. AND IT'S ALSO, AGAIN, THERE HAS BEEN A HISTORY OF, YOU KNOW, THE HOMELESS BEING IN THE REAR ENTRANCE AREA. AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING THAT, THAT GATE THERE TO PREVENT IT. I KNOW THERE'S A GATE, TO THE BACK OF THE, OF THAT REAR ENTRANCE AREA, AND WE DID NOTE TO HAVE THAT FIXED. SO, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THESE MEASURES, WE DO BELIEVE THAT WE'LL START TO MITIGATE THOSE ISSUES. OKAY. I HAVE A CLARIFYING QUESTION. AWESOME. THANK YOU SO MUCH, YOU HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. YEAH. GO AHEAD, GOING BACK TO THE LANDSCAPE AND THE GATE, SINCE THERE'S OTHER TENANTS IN THAT SPACE, IS IT A SHARED RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE FOR THE TENANTS THERE, LIKE FOR THE LANDSCAPE AND THE GATE, OR IS IT JUST THE APPLICANT? BECAUSE I'M JUST CURIOUS, BECAUSE SINCE THERE'S OTHER TENANTS, I DON'T KNOW, A SHARED COST WOULD, YOU KNOW, GO FAR. RIGHT. BUT I WAS JUST CURIOUS. IS IT FALLING ON THE PROPERTY OWNER? RIGHT. YOU SAID THERE'S TWO DISTINCT OWNERS, RIGHT? TWO DISTINCT TABS ON THE PROPERTY ON THAT. YEAH. SO THE PROPERTY OWNER. SO PROPERTY OWNER OF THIS PROJECT IS WHERE YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE RIGHT ON THE SITE PLAN. SO THAT'S AT THE END IS DOLLAR TREE. SO THAT'S WHAT THE PROPERTY OWNER OF THIS PROJECT OWNS. AND THEN PASS THAT INTO SMART AND FINAL. ANOTHER PROPERTY OWNER OWNS THAT. BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IT WOULD BE UP TO THE APPLICANT AND THE PROPERTY OWNER TO ARRANGE HOW THEY'RE GOING TO PAY FOR THIS. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM SO WHAT'S THE STATUS OF THE SITUATION WITH THE FAMILY DOLLAR? DO WE HAVE AN UPDATE ON THAT OR WHAT ABOUT THE PARKING LOT ON THE PARKING LIGHT? THE PARKING LIGHTING? YEAH I DON'T I DON'T HAVE ANY STATUS ON THAT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE, ONE OF THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS THAT YOU SAID THEY WERE THERE WAS A CODE ENFORCEMENT CASE ON IT, AND YOU GUYS WERE TRYING TO RESOLVE IT WITH CORPORATE FAMILY DOLLAR, I DON'T RECALL. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS THE SAME PLACE, BUT PROBABLY SAVE THAT FOR YOUR COMMISSIONER COMMENTS AT THE END OF THE LIGHTING, ASSETS THAT THAT YOU CAN BRING THAT. YEAH. WELL, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'M REFERRING TO. LIGHTING THE PARKING LOT LIGHTING. OKAY. WE'LL CONSIDER. AWESOME, YOU KNOW WHAT? ME? I, FOR ONE, JUST WANT TO THANK VMP. RIGHT. OBVIOUSLY AND THE INVESTMENT THEY'RE WILLING TO MAKE INTO THE CITY, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, WE ENCOURAGE SMALL BUSINESS, WE ENCOURAGE ENTREPRENEURSHIP HERE, AND WE'RE OPEN FOR BUSINESS. AND, YOU KNOW, ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO INVEST IN THE CITY AND HAS AN IDEA AND BRING THEM, BRING THEM ON DOWN, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE GOING TO COME WITH CONDITION CONDITIONS. RIGHT. AND, THIS, THIS, CONDITION, I BELIEVE WE NEED TO ADD ONE MORE, AND OBVIOUSLY I AM IN FAVOR OBVIOUSLY, THE WE APPROVED ANOTHER LIQUOR LICENSE RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER. RIGHT. AND WE'RE MAKING, WE ADDED A CONDITION FOR PRESSURE WASHING RIGHT. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE PRESSURE. SAME THING HERE. PRESSURE WASHING. RIGHT. MAYBE TWICE. TWICE A MONTH, TWICE A MONTH. AND AFTER EACH MAJOR EVENT THAT'S HAPPENING. SO IF YOU HAVE A SPECIAL EVENT QUINCEANERA OR WEDDING THAT THE PRESSURE WASH AFTERWARDS. RIGHT. AND OBVIOUSLY COMMISSIONER O'NEILL DID BRING UP THAT THERE'S HOMELESS AROUND THE ARE. RIGHT. AND SO WE JUST I JUST WANT TO PROMOTE CLEANLINESS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. AND EVERY OPPORTUNITY WE GET, WE SHOULD. RIGHT. SO MAYBE WE MAKE THAT THE STANDARD AND ALSO TO, AT PERHAPS, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FEASIBLE, FOR THE APPLICANT AND OR THE PROPERTY OWNER, BUT THAT WE DO EXPLORE, PARKING, LIGHTING, SUFFICIENT PARKING LIGHTING AT THE RENEWAL POINT OF THIS PERMIT AT A YEAR'S TIME, RIGHT FROM THE APPROVAL. SO MAYBE, PERHAPS, NOT RIGHT NOW OR [01:10:07] MAYBE. WELL, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE AT LEAST CODE ENFORCEMENT GO LOOK AT IT AND SEE IF THERE'S ADEQUATE LIGHTING. I DON'T THINK THERE IS. I THINK THAT THAT PLACE IS PRETTY DARK AND I'M TALKING I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT SPECIFIC. I'M TALKING ABOUT THAT WHOLE PARKING LOT, FAMILY DOLLAR. WERE WE ABLE TO GET THE APPLICANT ON ON ONLINE? WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO GET THAT ONLINE? OKAY. SO I WOULD I WOULD JUST ADD, I MEAN, THAT THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE AS A CONDITION. RIGHT SOME OF THE REASONS WHY WE WERE REQUESTING SECURITY THAT PATROLS LIKE THE PARKING LOT, THERE ARE SITUATIONS WHERE AFTER, LIKE AN EVENT, LIKE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID IS, I THINK WHAT WE EXPERIENCED AT THE FOOD FOR LIFE SHOPPING CENTER, WHERE, LIKE, PEOPLE STAY IN THE PARKING LOT TOO LONG, THAT'S INCIDENTS HAPPEN. SO THE MORE YOU CAN CLEAR PEOPLE OUT, BUT ALSO HAVE LIGHTING TO I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S A VALID POINT. AND IF YOU GUYS THINK THAT MAKES SENSE FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF MAKING YOUR FINDINGS FOR THIS, AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE VALID, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT PROBABLY DIDN'T THINK ABOUT WHEN WE WERE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, JUST A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE. YOU KNOW, AND OR WE FEEL SAFE THERE. THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF PEOPLE HANGING OUT IN THE FRONT WHERE IT'S ALL DARK, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE WALKING ACROSS THE PARKING LOT, BUT THEN YOU GET RUN OVER, YOU KNOW. SO I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THERE'S ADEQUATE LIGHTING. SO I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT YOU CONTINUE THIS ITEM JUST BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THE LIGHTING IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE SUPER EXPENSIVE, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE APPLICANT IS GOING TO HAVE TO EXPLORE WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER AND AN ADDITIONAL PROPERTY OWNER. AND I WOULD JUST WANT THEM ON THE RECORD AGREEING TO THOSE TWO CONDITIONS, BECAUSE, WHAT I'M FEARFUL IS IF YOU DO ADOPT THIS NOW THAT THOSE TWO CONDITIONS, WITHOUT HAVING THEM ACCEPTING THEM ON THE RECORD, RIGHT, THEN THERE MIGHT BE SOME SORT OF MISCOMMUNICATION. AND, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ACCEPT THEM. SO I WOULD RECOMMEND CONTINUING THE ITEM AND THEN HAVING THE APPLICANT HERE TO ADDRESS THOSE, TO ADDRESS THOSE TWO CONCERNS. WELL, THOSE TWO ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. OKAY. LET ME GO AHEAD AND TRY IT ONE MORE TIME TO PROMOTER HERE. CHAIR. CAN THEY WORK THAT OUT WITH THE CITY OR WITH THE STAFF FROM THE CITY, OR HAVE I THINK THAT'S I THINK WE'RE A LITTLE HELD UP JUST DEPENDING ON IF WE GET A MOTION. IF, IF, IF WE'RE GOING TO HOLD UP THIS PERMIT, WHEN DO THEY WANT TO OPEN. THEY'RE, THEY'RE TRYING TO GET OPEN AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. SO COULD YOU RESOLVE THAT WITH THEM OR GABRIEL, THE STAFF OR STAFF OR. WELL WHAT IS THE LIGHTING PLAN LIKE. SO ARE THEY ARE THEY PLANNING ON SIGNAGE RIGHT NOW. IS THERE SOME TYPE OF LIGHTING SIGNAGE THAT'S GOING TO BE OUT THERE? IS THERE IS THERE A PLAN FOR LIGHTING IN FRONT OF THE BUSINESS RIGHT NOW? WE HAVEN'T SEEN A SIGN YET, SO THEY WOULD SUBMIT THAT AS A SEPARATE PERMIT. SO WE'LL LOOK AT THAT DURING THAT TIME. BUT YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW I DON'T USUALLY THAT'S NOT SUFFICIENT LIGHTING FOR VISIBILITY FOR LIKE SAFETY PURPOSES. RIGHT. I THINK THIS COMES BACK TO THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD WITH WITH ANOTHER BUSINESS OWNER THAT WE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE A TENANT, BUT THEN THEY DON'T HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE OWNER. AND I THINK THAT'S THAT'S NOT BUSINESS. RIGHT. AND AGAIN, I ASKED THE QUESTION BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY JUST TO UNDERSTAND AGAIN, MY QUESTION ABOUT IS THIS THE RIGHT SPOT FOR THIS PARTICULAR BUSINESS? I'M NOT SAYING THAT I'M NOT FOR THE BUSINESS. I'M JUST THINKING LOGISTICALLY IS THE RIGHT SPOT, YOU KNOW, TO CLEAR MY POINT. BUT I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD HOLD OFF FOR THIS BECAUSE THE, THE TENANT HAS NO CONTROL OF THIS. RIGHT. AND SO I JUST FEEL THIS IS YET ANOTHER REASON, RIGHT, THAT IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AS A CITY TO, TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP THESE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THESE OWNERS, TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THE CITY OF COACHELLA IS MOVING FORWARD IN A DIFFERENT AVENUE. RIGHT. BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S IN OUR BEST INTEREST AS COMMISSION OWNERS TO HOLD OFF BECAUSE OF THAT. EVEN THOUGH I DO RESPECT VICE CHAIR GONZALEZ'S PERSPECTIVE ABOUT LIGHTING, THERE, I DO FEEL THAT THAT THAT IT'S THAT AS A COMMISSION, WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD. AND, AND APPROVE THIS RESOLUTION AND THEN TRY TO FIGURE IT OUT AND ANOTHER WAY TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN, BECAUSE, AGAIN, AS, AS AS I WAS SHARING WITH US, THEY DON'T HAVE CONTROL OF THIS, RIGHT. WELL, MAYBE WE CAN GET A WORD FROM OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT. ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH, WITH THAT PARKING LOT? WE HAVE RENE CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. WE CURRENTLY HAVE AN OPEN CASE THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO WORK WITH THEM. THERE IS SOME ISSUES THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO WORK OUT BETWEEN THE ACTUAL TENANT AND OWNERSHIP, AS LEGAL STATES, I, I WOULD GO WITH LEGAL'S RECOMMENDATION TO HOLD OFF AND [01:15:05] GET THEM TO ACTUALLY COMMIT, BUT THAT'S A DECISION THAT YOU GUYS NEED TO MAKE. BUT IT'S JUST NOT ONLY THEIR PARKING LOT, IT'S THE SMART AND FINAL. IT'S THE PIZZA HUT. IT'S THE ANDES BURGER THAT NEEDS ATTENTION. IT'S JUST NOT THIS ONE. RIGHT. AND THOSE ARE ALL DIFFERENT OWNERS. YEAH, THEY'RE ALL PARTIAL OWNER. RIGHT. I'M REFERRING TO THE WHOLE PARKING LOT IN GENERAL. BUT YEAH, MY UNDERSTANDING FROM STAFF IS THAT WHEN I GOT UP THE LAST TIME THEY SAID THERE WAS SOME AN OPEN CASE ON IT. SO THIS, THIS PARKING LOT ONLY GOES FROM VICTORY LIQUOR TO DOLLAR TREE FROM THE FRONT OF THOSE BUILDINGS UP TO TOWARDS THE PIZZA HUT AREA. YEAH SO IT'S NOT THE SMART FINAL AREA AS WELL. YEAH THAT'S I THINK THAT'S THAT'S WHERE THE PROBLEMS ARE. THEY'RE NOT ENOUGH LIGHT IN THERE. YEAH. WE WORK WITH LIKE I SAID WE'VE HAD A CASE OPEN ON THE PROPERTY. WE'VE TRIED WORKING WITH THE OWNER. SO IT THERE'S STILL SOME CHANGES AND CORRECTIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE AS WELL. AND THOSE ARE ALL ITEMS THAT MR. MORENO'S ACTUALLY PLACED ON FOR AS CONDITIONS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND THE WAY YOU WOULD ADDRESS THAT, I MEAN, YOU WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO PUT POLES YOU COULD ADD ADDITIONAL HEADS ON ON THE EXISTING THE EXISTING POLES THAT ARE THERE. NOW, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. SO TALK ABOUT COST EFFICIENT, MAYBE UPDATING THE LIGHTING, THE LIGHTING SIGNIFICANT TO DO AS WELL. AN ADDITIONAL HEADS ON THE ON THE POLES. BUT YEAH IT'S TERRIBLE. THE LIGHT IS TERRIBLE IN THAT WHOLE AREA WHERE EDISON LIGHTS I DON'T KNOW. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW, THAT MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE CLEAR THAT WE CAN OBLIGATE THEM TO GO ON TO ANOTHER PROPERTY AND ANY OTHER LANDSCAPING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO I THINK THAT'S A CLARIFICATION THAT THE COMMISSION SHOULD, GIVE FROM THE TENANT IS WHAT KIND OF AGREEMENT IS THERE BETWEEN THE OWNERS FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO, ACTUALLY FULFILL THESE, CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, RIGHT? SO THEY THEY'RE ALREADY AWARE OF THESE CONDITIONS THAT THE STAFF HAS PRESENTED TO THEM OR PRESENTED TO US, RATHER. SO I IMAGINE THERE'S ALREADY AN AGREEMENT THERE OR THEY'RE THEY'RE MADE AWARE OF THEM. YEAH. SO I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN THAT'S WHY I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER IF THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE AWARE OF THESE CONDITIONS THAT THEY'RE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO FULFILL THESE CONDITIONS, ESPECIALLY SINCE THAT LOT SEEMS TO BE SPLIT BETWEEN MULTIPLE OWNERS. TO BE CLEAR, IT'S THE PRESSURE WASHER AND THE LIGHTING, NOT THE OTHER ONES THAT WERE DISCUSSED. THAT'S WHAT HE WAS REFERRING TO. THE TWO ADDITIONAL ONES THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, RIGHT. YES. THOSE WITH ADDITION OF THESE OTHER CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. SO I WOULD JUST WANT THEM TO BE ON THE RECORD SAYING THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THESE CONDITIONS AND THAT THEY WILL STAFF'S CONDITIONS LEGALLY, FULFILL THOSE CONDITIONS. YOU'RE REFERRING TO STAFF'S CONDITIONS, RIGHT. LIGHTING CONDITIONS. YEAH. SO STAFF'S CONDITIONS, STAFF CONDITIONS, AND ALSO THE TWO ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS THAT YOU GUYS ARE, BRINGING FORWARD. HENRY, THE STAFF CONDITIONS IN THE REPORT, EVEN SOMETIMES WE DON'T HAVE APPLICANTS HERE. WE STILL WOULD MAKE A DECISION ON THE. YEAH, BUT BUT IT'S BUT BECAUSE OF THE SEPARATE LEGAL OWNERSHIP, I WOULDN'T WANT THIS TO BE LIKE THE OTHER. THE OTHER, ITEM THAT WAS HERE AT OUR LAST MEETING WHERE, THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF DIFFERENT OWNERS ON THIS PROPERTY. RIGHT. SO THESE THESE LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS OR A LANDSCAPE, REQUIREMENTS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE APPLICANT KNOWS AND IS ABLE TO FULFILL THOSE. OKAY. NOW WE CAN, IF NOT THE PROPERTY OWNER, CORRECT. SO I, I IMAGINE I CAN MOVE THIS ITEM FORWARD. RIGHT. AND THEY CAN APPEAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL. YES YOU CAN. YES. YOU COULD DEFINITELY DO THAT. ALL RIGHT. I JUST WANT TO GET THIS OUT OF HERE. ALL RIGHT. COOL. SO I THINK THE BEST BET TO DO IS TO, ADD THE PRESSURE WASHING. AND SECOND IS TO REVISIT THE PARKING LIGHTING AT THE RENEWAL PERIOD, AND THAT'S WE CAN MEET THERE. THAT GIVES THEM, GIVES THE APPLICANT AMPLE TIME TO PUT TOGETHER A GAME PLA, TALK TO THEIR OWNERSHIP, HAVE THE OWNER TALK TO HIS NEIGHBORS AND ALTOGETHER, YOU KNOW, WOULD YOU BEAUTIFY THAT AREA? DID YOU HAVE TO STIPULATE A CONDITION ON THAT? WOULDN'T YOU? YEAH, YEAH, JUST REAL QUICK. YOU GUYS AREN'T HERE FROM NOW. WHEN THEY COME BACK TO THE FINAL DECISION, THIS IS OUR RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL. SO THERE IS ALSO SOME ABILITY TO TALK TO THE APPLICANT, WORK SOME OF THIS STUFF OUT. SO SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS ALL RIGHT I WANT A MOTION TO APPROVE ENTERTAINMENT PERMIT NUMBER 20 401 AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 380 WITH ADDITIONAL CONDITION TO PRESSURE WASH TWICE A MONTH. AND TO REVISIT THE PARKING LIGHTING PLAN AT THE YEAR RENEWAL. CAN I GET A SECOND? SECOND? GET A ROLL CALL? OKAY, ALTERNATE COMMISSIONER FONSECA. YES, [01:20:06] COMMISSIONER MURILLO. YES. COMMISSIONER. RAMIREZ. YES. VICE CHAIR. GONZALEZ YES. CHAIR. HERNANDEZ. YES, SIR. OKAY. MOTION PASSES. ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER SIX. ARCHITECTURAL REVIE. NUMBER NINE, DASH ZERO ONE, MODIFICATION OF THE ROA, IS REQUEST TO MODIFY LANDSCAPE PLAN AND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR AN APPROVAL PROJECT OF ORAL ENGINEERING FOR 825 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE BUILDING, 7500FT■!S OF PREFABRICATED WAREHOUSE BUILDING AND TWO SHADE STRUCTURES TOTALING. 16,500FT■!S FOR STORAE OF CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT, PLUS INCIDENTAL, INCIDENTAL OUTDOOR STORAGE ON A VACANT 2.89 ACRE LOT IN THE M DASH H HEAVY INDUSTRIAL ZONE LOCATED ON 54 101 ENTERPRISE WAY. APN. NUMBER 763280-015. OKAY. THANK YOU. CHAIR. MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SO THIS ITEM IS ALREADY AN APPROVED PROJECT. JUST BACKGROUND ON THIS ITEM BECAUSE THEY'RE PROBABLY COMMISSIONERS THAT WERE NOT PART OF THIS DECISION. SO THIS WAS APPROVED BACK IN APRIL OF 2019, THE APPLICANT OR ENGINEER, CONSTRUCTED THE SITE, WHICH INCLUDES A 825 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE BUILDING, A 7500 SQUARE FOOT PREFABRICATED WAREHOUSE BUILDING, AND STRUCTURES, EACH OF 16,500FT■!S FOR STORAGE OF CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT, OUTSIDE STORAGE, 2.89 ACRE LOT, SO THE REASON WHY THIS IS BEFORE YOU TODAY IS THE APPLICANT IS LOOKING TO AMEND THEIR LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THERE WERE SOME CHANGES THAT THEY THOUGHT THAT COULD BE APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY. WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, THEY WERE ACTUALLY CONDITIONS. WE THOUGHT, WELL, THEY WEREN'T CONDITIONS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION SPECIFICALLY PUT ON THE PROJECT. SO THEY WEREN'T NECESSARILY CONDITIONS FROM STAFF, BUT PLANNING COMMISSION SPECIFIC CONDITIONS THAT WERE ADDED AT THE MEETING, SO I'LL GO OVER THAT A LITTLE BIT. BUT THIS IN FRONT OF YOU IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN. THAT WAS APPROVED. AND, SO THEY HAVE AN ENTRANCE OFF OF ENTERPRISE WAY. SO LARGELY ALL THESE IMPROVEMENTS ARE THERE. JUST THE LANDSCAPE IS LARGELY NOT NOT FINISHED. THE RAILROAD IS ACTUALLY TO THE WEST OF THE PROJECT. SO WHAT THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO DO, IF YOU COULD SEE ON THE EAST END AND THE SOUTH END OF THE PROJECT, THERE ARE THESE LARGE OUTDOOR METAL STRUCTURES AND, AND SO THEY, THEY'RE JUST QUESTIONING THE NEED TO HAVE A LOT OF LANDSCAPING IN THAT AREA IF IT'S REALLY NOT GOING TO BE VISIBLE, IF THE TREES AREN'T GOING TO REALLY PROVIDE ANY SHADE IN THOSE AREAS. SO THEY'RE LOOKING TO AMEND THE LANDSCAPE PLAN IN A WAY THAT FOR THEM WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE AND WOULD STILL PROVIDE ESTHETICS. AND I'LL GO OVER THAT IN A BIT, THEY DO WANT TO KEEP THE SAME LANDSCAPE PLAN FROM ALONG THE FRONTAGE, THEY HAVE ADDED SOME LANDSCAPE IN SOME OF THE LANDSCAPE FINGERS THAT AREN'T SHADE, TREES THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SHADE TREES THAT ARE PALM TREES. WE WOULD STILL ENCOURAGE THEM TO PUT SHADE TREES BACK THERE BECAUSE IT'S HARDLY CONCRETE. IT WOULD REDUCE, IT WOULD ACTUALLY COOL THE AREA A LITTLE BIT BETTER. SO I'LL GO INTO THOSE CONDITIONS FROM 2019. SO CONDITION 82 WAS ADDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSIO. SO UNIQUELY THIS SAID THAT, PLANNING COMMISSION DIDN'T WANT ANY OUTDOOR INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITY OR OUTDOOR AUTO AND EQUIPMENT REPAIR ON THE PROPERTY. SO WHEN WE DID THE SITE TOUR, I WAS LIKE, WELL, THERE'S INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITY AND OUTDOOR AUDIO AND EQUIPMENT REPAIR ON THE PROPERTY, RIGHT, TO ME, I, I DIDN'T REALLY SEE AN ISSUE WITH IT, BUT BECAUSE IT IS A CONDITION THAT WAS ADDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, FOR WHATEVER REASON, THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADDED IT. IT DOES NEED TO COME BACK TO YOU FOR CONSIDERATION IF THERE IS TO BE REMOVED. RIGHT, IF IT'S NOT REMOVED, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE THEIR OPERATIONS A LITTLE BIT. THE APPLICANT SAID THAT THEY WERE NOT AWARE OF THAT CONDITION. OBVIOUSLY I WASN'T HERE AT THE TIME, BUT SO THEY COULD SPEAK TO THAT CONDITION DURING COMMENTS, THEN CONDITION 84, THERE WAS A CONDITION THAT THE LANDSCAPING ALONG THE RAILROAD BE AUGMENTED WITH FICUS TREES AS APPROPRIATE FOR BETTER SCREENING. SO TO SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE ON THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, SO IF YOU CAN SEE THAT [01:25:05] THERE'S LIKE A DOTTED LINE BEHIND THE PROPERTY LINE. SO THERE'S ACTUALLY A 30 FOOT EASEMENT. BEHIND THE BLOCK WALL. AND SO IT'S WEIRD, RIGHT? IT'S ALMOST LIKE A NO MAN'S LAND BETWEEN THE WALL AND THE RAILROAD. IT'S ACTUALLY VERY DIFFICULT TO ACCESS. I WAS TRYING TO TAKE PICTURES. I'M LIKE, THERE'S NO WAY FOR ME TO GET IN THERE. SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT FICUS TREES WERE RECOMMENDED FOR SCREENING AND ESTHETICS, SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WENT OVER THERE, HERE'S SOME PHOTOS OF WHAT WHAT'S THERE TODAY? RIGHT. THE FRONT BUILDING ALONG ENTERPRISE WAY, THE STRUCTURES THAT ARE INSIDE. AND THIS IS WHERE SOME OF THE OUTDOOR ACTIVITY IS TAKING PLACE. BUT HERE ARE PHOTOS FROM GRAPEFRUIT BOULEVARD LOOKING AT THE BACK OF THE STRUCTURES. RIGHT. SO ONE, IF YOU HAD ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WALL, THE TREES, YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO SEE MUCH OF IT. YOU PROBABLY COULD SEE IT FROM HERE. IT'S JUST, THERE THERE'S ALREADY A LOT OF SCREENING FROM SOME OF THE MESQUITE TREES THAT HAVE GROWN THERE OVER TIME NEAR THE RAILROAD. BUT I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE YOU TWO PERSPECTIVES TO SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, IT IS DIFFICULT TO ACCESS. SO LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE WOULD BE DIFFICULT. AND ENSURING THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM IS, IS INTACT. BUT THAT'S UP TO THE PURVIEW OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE THAT CONDITION. THEY DID PRESENT THIS LANDSCAPE PLAN, IT'S NOT REALLY IN COLOR. SO I JUST KIND OF WANT TO EXPLAIN WHAT'S GOING ON. IF YOU CAN SEE ON THE WEST END AND THEN THE SOUTH END, YOU DON'T REALLY SEE THE CIRCLES FOR, FOR TREES, RIGHT. BASICALLY THEY TOOK THAT OUT AND THEY KEPT IT TO, DECOMPOSED GRAVEL AND, AND BASICALLY JUST SOME, SOME, PLANTS IN BETWEEN THE SHADE STRUCTURES, RIGHT WHERE THERE'S OPENINGS. SO THAT'S WHAT THEY WANTED TO LIMIT LANDSCAPING TO. THEY DIDN'T WANT TO PUT PLANTS OR TREES BEHIND THE STRUCTURES BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T SEE A PURPOSE TO IT. AND AGAIN, IT WASN'T GOING TO PROVIDE SHADE BECAUSE THOSE STRUCTURES PROVIDE SHADE, AND THEN WE WILL WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE LANDSCAPING AND THE FRONT STILL BE MAINTAINED. SO THAT THEY HAVE THE SHADE TREES, SO OUR RECOMMENDATION, YOU KNOW, A STAFF, WE FEEL THAT WE COULD SUPPORT THE CHANGES THAT THE APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR, IT DOES MAKE SENSE FOR US, BUT AGAIN, SINCE THE PLANNING COMMISSION MADE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE CONDITIONS, WE REALLY THINK IT'S UP TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DEPART FROM THESE CONDITIONS. IF YOU WERE TO AMEND THE CONDITIONS, IT WOULD REMOVE CONDITION NUMBER 74, WHICH WOULD NOT ALLOW WHICH RIGHT NOW WOULD PROHIBIT OUTDOOR INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITY FOR THE APPLICANT. IT WOULD REALLY DETER THEIR BUSINESS. ACCORDING TO THEM, NUMBER 76 IS REMOVING THE FICUS TREES AS I HAD EXPLAINED BEFORE. AND THEN WE WOULD RECOMMEND ADDING CONDITION 76, WHERE THE LANDSCAPE PLAN WOULD BE REVISED TO REFLECT WHAT THE APPLICANT IS LOOKING TO DO ON THE EAST AND SOUTH END OF THE PROJECT. BUT TO KEEP ALL THE OTHER PARTS OF THE LANDSCAPE PLANNED IN THE FRONT. THE SAME WITH THE SHADE TREES. SO WE RECOMMEND ADOPTING THE RESOLUTION PROVIDED TO YOU AND MODIFYING THE ARCHITECT TO REVIEW. THE APPLICANT IS IN THE AUDIENCE HERE TODAY, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I'M SURE THEY ARE TOO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. MR. DIRECTOR. THE TIME IS 730. I'D LIKE TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW NUMBER 1901. IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ANYBODY ONLINE? ALL RIGHT. IS THE APPLICANT HERE? THE APPLICANT LIKE TO ADDRESS THE DAIS? YEAH. GOOD AFTERNOON. YEAH. LIKE LIKE WE MENTIONED EARLIER, WE HAD ACTUALLY NO IDEA THAT WE WEREN'T GOING TO WE WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO HAVE ANY OUTDOOR ACTIVITY. THAT WAS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF HOLDING THOSE, FOR 2400FT■!S STRUCTURES, YOU KNOW, FOR PEOPLE TO WORK UNDER THE SHADE, I'M NOT GOING TO KEEP THE EQUIPMENT UNDER THE SHADE AND HAVE THE WORKERS WORK ON THE OUT ON THE SUN, YOU KNOW? AND, WE MISSED THAT. I DON'T KNOW HOW HE GOT THROWN IN THERE. MAYBE MY, THE GUY THAT DID ALL PLANS AND EVERYTHING, WE MADE A MISTAKE THERE, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS THOUGHT HE WAS PULLING HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. YOU KNOW? AND THAT'S WHAT WE DO, YOU KNOW, WELDING AND SO WE GOT TO HAVE A SHADE, YOU KNOW, WE GOT WE USE THEM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY WE BUILT THEM FOR THAT WAS THE WHOLE INTENTION OF IT, YOU KNOW. BUT IT WAS IT WAS OUR MISTAKE [01:30:03] THAT WE THEY HAD IT IN THE CONDITION THEY'RE IN. WE WENT WITH IT. YOU KNOW, WE JUST DIDN'T READ THE FINE PRINT. YES, SIR. AWESOME THANK YOU SO MUCH, BEFORE WE ASK ANY QUESTIONS, ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE ISSUE? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'D LIKE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 731. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER. ARE YOU READY TO GO? 2020 4-I WAS JUST CURIOUS FOR YOUR LANDSCAPE OR. GO AHEAD. YOU GOT IT. HOLD ON. WHAT'S GOING ON? YOU GOT A QUESTION? YEAH I DO OKAY. GO AHEAD. SORRY, SORRY, COMMISSIONER. FOR THE LANDSCAPE. BRAVO. WHAT IS IT? MY LAST NAME IS BRAVO. BRAVO. YES, FOR THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, WHAT TYPE OF GRAVEL? BECAUSE USUALLY IT'S BEEN THREE FOURTHS. IS THAT THE SAME THING? QUARTER? THREE QUARTERS. EXCUSE ME. THIS IS THE LANDSCAPE RIGHT HERE. THAT'S OKAY. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS DAVID NAVARRO, AND I HELPED PUT TOGETHER THE LANDSCAPE PORTION OF THE PLANS. YEAH. SO THE IDEA WAS TO USE, LIKE, A THREE QUARTER INCH DESERT GOLD GRAVEL. OKAY ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE STAFF WAS TO HAVE THE FABRIC, UNDERNEATH EVERYTHING. AND THEN, ADDING SOME TREES DEFINITELY TO THE FRONT. YEAH. SO IT WAS ADDING THE DESERT GOLD AS A OVERALL BASE. AND THEN RIGHT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE RETENTION BASINS, HAVING A LARGER LIKE SIERRA COBBLE, TO HELP, YOU KNOW, FILTER SOME OF THE DEBRIS AND THEN PERCOLATE INTO THE SOIL. PERFECT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFICATION, ANY QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME? NO. WE'RE GOOD, QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. ANYBODY ALL RIGHT. SEEING THAT THERE ARE NONE. CAN WE GET A MOTION? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER PC 2024. DASH 20 TO APPROVE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW. NUMBER 19 ZERO ONE. MODIFICATION SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL AND FINDINGS. I'LL SECOND WORLD CUP. OKAY, I'LL TURN COMMISSIONER FONSECA. YES, COMMISSIONER. MURILLO. YES COMMISSIONER. RAMIREZ. YES. VICE CHAIR. GONZALEZ. YES CHAIR. HERNANDEZ. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. CONGRATULATIONS GOOD LUCK. THANK YOU. MECHANIC. SHAWN WELL, IT'S INDUSTRIAL, RIGHT? SO, LIKE INDUSTRIAL. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MOVING OVER TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, ZONING ORDINANCE, AMENDMENT NUMBER 22, DASH ZERO NINE, PHASE ONE OF STREAMLINE CODE AMENDMENTS TO AMEND COACHELLA MUNICIPAL CODE TITLE 17 REGARDING ZONING DISTRICTS, PERMITTED USES, DEVELOPMENT AND STANDARDS, AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS IN THE CITY. SITTING HYPHEN INITIATED. OKAY, OKAY. THANK YOU AGAIN, CHAIR. AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. OKAY. SO THIS ITEM, IS OUR PHASE ONE STREAMLINE CODE AMENDMENTS. IT'S BEEN A WHILE FOR US TO GET TO THIS POINT, SO I JUST WANT TO EXPLAIN HOW WE GOT HERE ON DECEMBER 14TH, 2022, STAFF PRESENTED TO COUNCIL WORK PROGRAM TO UPDATE CERTAIN SECTIONS AND CHAPTERS OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE, THAT WOULD IMPROVE THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS, CREATE MORE FLEXIBILITY IN OUR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, AND THEN MODIFY THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO ADDRESS NEW CHANGES REQUIRED BY STATE LAW, SO THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS WOULD ADDRESS SIDEWALK VENDING AT THAT TIME IN THE WORK PLAN, THE HOUSING LAWS, RESIDENTIAL FRONT YARD STRUCTURES, PARKING STANDARDS, SIGN ORDINANCE, SPECIAL EVENTS, RESIDENTIAL BLOCK WALLS, COMMERCIAL LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE. SO, HAVING ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW, PERMIT FINDINGS, MINOR VARIANCE, AND UPDATING THE ADU ORDINANCE A FEW THINGS THERE HAVE BEEN SEPARATE ADOPTION OF SOME OF THESE AMENDMENTS BEFORE THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF. SO LIKE THE SIDEWALK VENDOR ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED SEPARATELY, AND SO WE ARE LOOKING TO TAKE THE PARKING STANDARD, THE SIGNED ORDINANCE AND SPECIAL EVENT STANDARDS AS A SEPARATE PHASE TWO ADOPTION. AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN BRING THAT BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION BY JANUARY OF 2025. SO THAT'S THE GOAL WITH THAT. SO WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU ARE THE REST OF THE REQUIRED, REQUESTED CHANGES. SO THE FIRST ONE AND THIS MAY BE A LOT. SO IF YOU WANT ME TO PAUSE OR IF YOU WANT TO REFER TO THE DIRECT RED LINES IN, THE ATTACHMENTS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. WE COULD SPEND AS MUCH TIME AS WE NEED TO ON THIS, SO ONE OF THE CHAPTERS WE WERE LOOKING TO REVISE IS THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. SO SOME OF YOU [01:35:02] MIGHT BE LIKE, WELL, WHAT'S A PLANNING OF DEVELOPMENT? SO, YOU KNOW, PLENTY OF DEVELOPMENTS CURRENTLY IN OUR CODE IS CHAPTER 17.38. THAT IS, AN INSTRUMENT THAT ALLOWS THE DEVELOPER FOR RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS TO CREATE THEIR OWN STANDARDS FOR THEIR PROJECTS. SO IT ALLOWS FOR A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY. THEY HAVE TO GET APPROVED A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, AND THEN THEY HAVE TO APPLY A PUD CHANGE OF ZONE. SO BECAUSE IT'S A CHANGE OF ZONE, IT ALWAYS REQUIRES GOING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND TO CITY COUNCIL. SO A LOT OF CITIES DO ALSO ALLOW FOR PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENTS IN THEIR CITIES. OUR CITY IT'S RESTRICTED SPECIFICALLY TO RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS, SO WHAT WHAT I'M PROPOSING IS THAT WE REMOVE THE NEED FOR THE CHANGE OF ZONE AND THE OVERLAY ZONE AND MAKE IT MORE SIMPLIFIED. SO IT ONLY REQUIRES A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT LAQUINTA DOES ALLOW FOR THEIR DEVELOPMENT. SO SOMEONE COULD APPLY FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, RECOMMEND MORE FLEXIBLE STANDARDS, GIVE YOU A MORE RECENT EXAMPLE OF THIS. THE PYRAMID RANCH DEVELOPMENT. THEY HAD TO REQUEST A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT TO ALLOW FOR SMALLER SETBACKS IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT WAS ONE EXAMPLE, SO I JUST THINK IT'S A GOOD TOOL THAT WE COULD APPLY ACROSS DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS, NOT JUST THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS. WE COULD APPLY IT TO THE COMMERCIAL, TO THE INDUSTRIAL ZONES, AND IT ACTUALLY WOULD ALLOW FOR MORE FLEXIBILITY IN ALL THE ZONES, PALM SPRINGS DOES ALLOW FOR PLENTY OF DEVELOPMENTS IN ALL THEIR ZONES, IN THEIR CITY. AND THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THE IDEA CAME FROM. AND I THOUGHT IT WAS IT WAS A GOOD IDEA. IT WOULD ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT AND MORE INNOVATIVE DEVELOPMENT. NOW, WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS THAT WE REQUIRE A PUBLIC BENEFIT OUT OF THIS. RIGHT? SO OUR CURRENT PLANNING OF DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS DOES NOT REQUIRE A PUBLIC BENEFIT. RIGHT SO BASICALLY WE'RE EXTENDING EXCEPTIONS FROM OUR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. BUT NOT REALLY ASKING FOR ANYTHING IN RETURN. RIGHT, I LIKE WHAT PALM SPRINGS DOES BECAUSE WHAT THEY HAVE IN THEIR STANDARDS IS REQUIRING A PUBLIC BENEFIT, AND SO THAT MIGHT INCLUDE IT COULD BE WHATEVER THE, YOU KNOW, THE PLANNING COMMISSION MIGHT REQUEST, BUT THEIR STANDARDS INCLUDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THAT COULD BE A BENEFIT, ON SITE PUBLIC AMENITIES THAT ARE ABOVE THAN WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR DEVELOPMENT, IT COULD BE OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE PROPOSED. SO SO ANY QUESTIONS ON THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT? OKAY. I LIKE THE PALM SPRINGS APPROACH WHERE THERE'S A PUBLIC BENEFIT TO IT. SO AND YOU WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO EXAMINE THAT PUBLIC BENEFIT AND DETERMINE IF THAT MAKES SENSE. SO LA QUINTA DOESN'T OFFER THAT THEN, LA QUINTA DOES REQUIRE WELL, THE PUBLIC BENEFIT IS MORE ABOUT EXTRA LIKE PARKLAND, RIGHT? THIS ONE ALLOWS FOR MORE OPTIONS. SO THE DEVELOPER'S LIKE, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT, I'D RATHER NOT DEDICATE MORE PARKLAND. MAYBE I COULD GIVE YOU, OFF SITE IMPROVEMENTS THAT MAYBE THE CITY NEEDS FOR STREETS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT SOMEWHERE ELSE. LED SCREEN GILMORE. RIGHT. EXACTLY EXACTLY. OKAY, SO WHAT I'M GOING TO GO INTO NEXT IS OUR FRONT YARD WALL AND FENCING STANDARDS. SO THIS PICTURE IS NEARBY HERE DOWNTOWN. SO OUR TYPICAL STANDARDS ARE FOR 32IN A BLOCK THAT ARE PERMITTED. MAX, IT DOES REQUIRE YOU CAN'T BUILD IN FRONT OF YOUR PROPERTY LINE. SO THIS IS BUILT AT THE PROPERTY LINE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SIDEWALK. BUT IT HAS TO YOU CAN'T VIEW OBSCURE YOUR FRONT YARD. SO THAT MEANS YOU CAN NEVER BUILD A SIX FOOT WALL. YOU CAN'T HAVE A COURTYARD IN THE CITY. SO WHEN I PRESENT THIS WORK PLAN TO CITY COUNCIL, I THOUGHT, WELL, WHY? WHY COULDN'T WE DO IT? WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS. MAYBE IN 2007, AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WASN'T IN FAVOR OF DOING IT. THEY THEY WANTED TO LOOK IN FRONT OF EVERYONE'S YARDS, MY THINKING ON THIS IS IF LA QUINTA COULD ALLOW FOR THIS, WHY CAN'T WE DO THIS IN COACHELLA? SO GO INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF WHAT'S ALLOWED. SO BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GO OVER THAT 32IN THE WROUGHT IRON, USUALLY YOU HAVE WROUGHT IRON SO THAT YOU COULD SEE, ABOVE THE 32IN. SO YOU CAN HAVE SOME OF THAT SCREENING, THIS IS TYPICALLY WHAT YOU WOULD SEE IN LA QUINTA. YOU MIGHT HAVE LIKE A SIX FOOT WALL IN AN ENTRYWAY, BUT ALLOW FOR COURTYARD OPPORTUNITY. AND A LOT OF THOSE DOORS HAVE YOU EVER, I THINK THEY HAVE LIKE THESE POSTERS THAT THEY ADVERTISE [01:40:05] ABOUT, LIKE SPECIAL DOORS AND ALL THESE COURTYARDS IN THEIR CITY. SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE A VERY UNIQUE THING THAT THAT'S ALLOWED IN THEIR CITY. SO JUST LIKE SOME OTHER PHOTOS. SO, YOU KNOW, I LIKE THE APPROACH, I WASN'T A FAN OF THE RESTRICTED APPROACH HERE IN COACHELLA. I THINK THERE'S A WAYS TO ACHIEVE ESTHETICS. THROUGH THE STANDARDS. SO THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS WOULD ALLOW FOR A SIX FOOT HIGH BLOCK WALLS, IT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO FINDINGS THAT WE COULD MAKE CERTAIN DESIGN MATERIALS AND HEALTH AND SAFETY CONSIDERATION FINDINGS WOULDN'T GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION. IT WOULD BE ADMINISTRATIVE. BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE THOSE FINDINGS THAT IT'S ACCEPTABLE, THOSE FINDINGS ARE WHAT LA QUINTA HAS ON THEIR BOOKS, WHAT THIS WOULD ALSO ALLOW IS THE ABILITY TO HAVE A FRONT YARD POOL OR SPA AT YOUR HOME. RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO IT. THE CODE PROHIBITS THAT, I THINK IT'S A MISSED OPPORTUNITY. I THINK WITH ADUS THAT ARE REQUIRED, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF WEIRD IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AN ADU, BUT MAYBE YOU WANT TO SEPARATE THE POOL AND SPA FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE PRIMARY HOME. HERE'S A WAY TO DO THAT. IS THERE, A HAPPY MEDIUM THERE ON THE HEIGHT OF THE WALL, MY ONLY CONCERN IS, AS YOU KNOW, WHEN WE RELEASE, YOU KNOW, AS WE WHEN WE SAY GO, LIKE, THERE'S A LOT OF EXISTING PROPERTIES THAT DON'T EVEN MAINTAIN THEIR YARDS, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? WHERE I CAN JUST SEE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO CLOSE THEMSELVES OFF AND JUST USE IT FOR PARKING. YEAH. AND CARS. RIGHT, UNMAINTAINED CARS AND USED CARS. SO THAT'S MY CONCERN THERE. SO THE OTHER. YEAH, I GUESS YOU COULD. RIGHT SO SOME OF THESE EXAMPLES I'M SHOWING YOU THERE IS NO ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO PARK A CAR BACK THERE BECAUSE THERE'S A WALL THAT BLOCKS IT OFF. RIGHT. THAT COULD BE THE HAPPY MEDIUM POTENTIALLY HERE, RIGHT. THAT CAR CAN'T TURN INTO THE COURTYARD BECAUSE THERE'S A WALL RIGHT THERE. RIGHT. BUT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE A COURTYARD. RIGHT SO LIKE, THEY COULD HAVE A SIX FOOT WALL RIGHT ON THEIR PROPERTY LINE AND JUST HAVE A HAMMERHEAD DRIVEWAY. WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? WELL, WHAT I'M SAYING YOU COULD REQUIRE THAT THERE BE THAT RETURN ON THE WALL BACK TO THE HOME IF YOU WANTED TO. I MEAN, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE HAPPY MEDIUM HERE. YEAH, IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO UP SIX FEET, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? THE OTHER THING THAT WE DIDN'T STIPULATE HERE TO, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD HAVE A STANDARD AROUND LANDSCAPING, RIGHT? YOU COULD HAVE A SITUATION WHERE NO ONE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DON'T HAVE LANDSCAPING IN THE FRONT. RIGHT. AND IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO SEE, THAT COULD BE PART OF THE FINDINGS, RIGHT? THAT THERE BE, MAYBE SOME KIND OF LANDSCAPE PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH THE WALL, I DON'T KNOW. SO SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU WERE THINKING OF? WELL, THAT'S JUST MY FEAR. RIGHT? MY FEAR IS REALLY HOW WELL PEOPLE UTILIZE THEIR FRONT YARDS CURRENTLY FOR PARKING SPACE. RIGHT PEOPLE UTILIZE THERE'S AND MAINTAIN CARS EVERYWHERE ON FRONT YARDS. PEOPLE DO MECHANIC WORK, SO IF YOU IF WE ALLOW THEM, YOU KNOW, TO HIDE, RIGHT, THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING, THEN I THINK THERE'S A LOT MORE PEOPLE CAN BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF THAT. SO THAT'S KIND OF JUST MY FEAR, RIGHT? YEAH. WELL, I MEAN, SO SOME OF THAT COULD BE WHAT I MENTIONED. IF YOU HAVE A RETURN, YOU CAN'T. THERE'S NO WAY TO FIT A VEHICLE IN THERE. RIGHT. YOU CAN'T THERE'S NO ACCESS FOR THE VEHICLE. WHAT IF THEY HAVE A GATE OR ARE WE GOING TO MANDATE BLOCK WALL ALL THE WAY AROUND, AND YOU WON'T SEE IT ON HERE. SO IT DOES REQUIRE A PEDESTRIAN GATE. I KNOW OF, BUT NOT LIKE A. SO IT WOULD BE A PEDESTRIAN GATE. OR WE COULD MAYBE OR DOUBLE DOOR. DOUBLE DOOR, I DON'T KNOW, LIKE, SAY, DOUBLE DOOR. YOU CAN SQUEEZE A CAR THROUGH THERE. ARE WE ENCROACHING ON PEOPLE'S, LIKE, LAND ON ON PRIVATE PROPERTY AND HOW THEY CAN USE IT? I MEAN, I'M JUST CURIOUS. WELL, NO, THAT'S THERE'S NO THERE'S ALREADY THERE'S ALREADY WE ALREADY HAVE A HARDSCAPE. YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE THERE'S ONLY A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF HOW MUCH HARDSCAPE CAN BE IN THE FRONT LAWN. YEAH. SO THAT'S MY CONCERN, THOUGH. MY CONCERN IS LIKE, WE SEE IT. WE SEE IT EVERYWHERE WE GET. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE PAVED SIDES. THEY PAVED. SO THE APPLICANT WOULD STILL BE REQUIRED TO, MAINTAIN THE SAME AMOUNT OF, PAVING THE REQUIREMENT. IT'S LIKE A 40 TO 60. IT'S 40% PAVING THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO HAVE IN THE 60% REMAINDER. IT NEEDS TO BE LANDSCAPED. THERE'S A REQUIREMENT FOR EVERYONE TO KEEP TWO TREES IN THE FRONT YARD. SO, SO THAT WOULD STILL BE REQUIRED. SO YOU COULD ADD OTHER THINGS [01:45:02] AROUND LIKE PAVEMENT, YOU KNOW, LIKE ONE OPTION IS IF YOU BUILD A COURTYARD OR TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOU OBSCURED FENCING. IS THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S A STANDARD FOR HOW MUCH PAVING YOU CAN HAVE BACK THERE. YOU CAN HAVE A SEPARATE STANDARD FOR THAT. NOW ALSO TO THIS THESE COURTYARDS. I'VE ONLY SEEN THEM IN THE COVE RIGHT. THAT'S WHERE THEY PRIMARILY EXIST. THEY DON'T THEY'RE NOT YOU DON'T EXIST, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE OF THAT, PRETTY MUCH. YOU KNOW, I CAN'T POINT TO ONE, BUT, YOU KNOW, WOULD IT BE IN OUR BEST INTERESTS? TO DESIGNATE WHERE WE CAN AND CANNOT BUILD THESE COURTYARDS WITHIN THE CITY? LIKE, I GET IT, WE'RE IN NEW DEVELOPMENT WHERE PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, LOT SIZES ARE SHRINKING, RIGHT? BACKYARDS ARE BECOMING SMALLER, YOU KNOW, TO REDUCE CONCENTRATION. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO LIKE? YEAH. YEAH. WELL, THAT'S LIKE, KIND OF WHERE WE'RE HEADED TO, RIGHT? LIKE AS, AS THE AS OUR, AS THE LOT SIZES ARE SHRINKING AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAINTAIN A CERTAIN FOOTPRINT. RIGHT. SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THESE NEW HOMES, YOU KNOW, IS THEIR ONLY OPTION MAYBE IS TO, YOU KNOW, BUILD IN THE FRONT. RIGHT. AND SOME OF THESE AND SO ARE WE GOING TO HAVE WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT SETBACKS NOW. AND FOR INSTANCE, WHERE A POOL CAN GO AND WHERE IT CANNOT GO ON SOME OF THESE LOT SIZES. I THINK YOU CAN I THINK YOU YOU KNOW, WE JUST, IF WE'RE GOING TO ADOPT IT, YOU KNOW, I THINK EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO IT. AND TAKING ADVANTAGE OF, THAT'S NOT THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. RIGHT. THAT THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHY WE'RE ALL HERE, RIGHT? BECAUSE DOES IT MAKE SENSE? DOES IT MAKE SENSE SOMEWHERE ELSE VERSUS ANOTHER PLACE? IS IT IS IT THE DOWNTOWN YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE A NEW DEVELOPMENT, THE WAY IT'S PROPOSED RIGHT NOW WOULD APPLY ACROSS LIKE ALL THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS. BUT THAT'S DEFINITELY UP TO YOUR PURVIEW HERE. BUT THERE WOULD BE SOME OVERSIGHT. I APOLOGIZE, BUT THERE WOULD BE SOME STANDARDS. KIND OF LIKE THREE FEET AWAY FROM THE WALL. THERE WOULD BE SOME TYPE OF STANDARDS AROUND, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST CAN'T BUILD A HUGE, LIKE, POOL IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE OR A SPA. YEAH. SO THERE'S NOT SPACE. YEAH. SO THE ONLY WAY YOU COULD DO A FRONT YARD POOL AND SPA IS IF YOU CONSTRUCT THE, THE COURTYARD IN FRONT AND YOU HAVE THE PROPER FENCING IN THE FRONT AND WHEN IT COMES TO SCREENED, YEAH, YEAH. WHEN IT COMES TO MIND IS HERE ON PINE STREET. SO YOU PAST FIFTH STREET, THERE'S A COURTYARD THERE THAT'S PRETTY. LOOKS PRETTY NICE. YEAH IT'S ILLEGAL. IT'S NICE AND IT'S GOT A NICE ENTRYWAY. IT'S GOT AN ARCH GATED PRIVATE AND YOU COULD SPECIFY CERTAIN THINGS WITH IT. RIGHT. SO FOR EXAMPLE, YOU MENTIONED YOU LIKE THE PEDESTRIAN ENTRANCE AND IT HAS THIS KIND OF ARCHWAY. YEAH. THAT'S NOT SPECIFIED HERE. SO IF THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT YOU WANTED TO SPECIFY WITH RESPECT TO THAT YOU COULD DO THAT. I DIDN'T GO TO THAT EXTENT. BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S ALMOST LIKE IF YOU APPROVE THIS NOW, IT WOULD BE A NEW PRIVILEGE THAT WAS NOT EXTENDED BEFORE. AND IF YOU WANT TO DO IT IN A CERTAIN WAY, THEN, YOU KNOW, THEN MIGHT AS WELL PROPOSE WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO SEE. RIGHT? I THINK IT WOULD PROBABLY WE PROBABLY NEED TO BE A LITTLE MORE TACTFUL. YEAH IN THIS APPROACH. RIGHT. BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THIS IS GOING TO CHANGE A LOT OF, A LOT OF COMMUNITIES, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IF SOMEONE DECIDES, OH, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO BUILD A SIX FOOT WALL, YOU KNOW, I LIKE IT. I LIKE THE IDEA. I DON'T KNOW, I JUST, PRIVACY PRIVACY LOOKS NICE. AND I'M THINKING AS LIKE A, AS A MOM, I'LL JUST THROW MY KID IN THE FRONT YARD, BE LIKE, HERE, GO PLAY WITHOUT ME THINKING SHE'S GOING TO CLIMB OVER THE OTHER HALF OF THE WALL OR SOMEONE'S GOING TO, YOU KNOW. YEAH HAVING TO BE THERE. AND, LIKE YOU SAID, HAVING JUST LIKE THE PEDESTRIAN GATE JUST ENSURES THAT IT WOULDN'T BE CLUTTERED WITH UNMAINTAINED CARS OR I THINK IT'S NICE. I THINK IT'S I THINK WE STIPULATE CONDITIONS WHERE IT'S GOING TO LOOK NICE ESTHETICALLY, NOT JUST GOING TO HAVE A BLANK WALL, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GOING TO LOOK LIKE A PRISON. EXACTLY, EXACTLY. YOU DON'T WANT TO. SO IT'S GOT TO BE SMOOTH STUCCO FINISH WHITE TO MATCH THE EXACTLY EXACTLY NICE CONCEPT. PUT A NICE A NICE GATE. YOU KNOW, PUT A SCONCE OUTSIDE, YOU KNOW, SPANISH TILE NUMBERS. WE'RE BEING FACETIOUS RIGHT HERE. WELL, I'M NOT SURE BECAUSE LIKE, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER NICE MAY NOT BE. AND THEN YOU COULD SPECIFY WHAT YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE. RIGHT CORRECT. SO I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. RIGHT. SO I ONCE WORKED AT THE CITY OF LA QUINTA. SO WHEN WE WORKED THERE WE HAD TO GO THROUGH THESE FINDINGS ADMINISTRATIVELY. RIGHT, THEY DID ALLOW FOR KIND OF THE, WHAT'S IT CALLED? LIKE THE MORE THICKER GRADE CORRUGATED METAL FOR MORE MODERN HOMES, SO WHEN SOMEONE WOULD TRY [01:50:02] TO PROPOSE, LIKE THE CORRUGATED METAL THAT YOU BUY AT HOME DEPO, THAT WAS NOT APPROVED, RIGHT. SO, SO THERE'S A LEVEL OF STANDARDS THAT STAFF WOULD TAKE IN MAKING THOSE FINDINGS. BUT YOU COULD ALSO SAY YOU KNOW, IT CAN'T BE CORRUGATED METAL. YOU WANT IT TO BE, A STUCCO. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT YOU COULD YOU COULD PUT IN THIS ORDINANCE SO YOU HAVE THE EXPERIENCE. SO I THINK THAT ADMINISTRATIVELY, IF YOU COULD PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER FOR US AND THEN WE COULD REVIEW IT AND SAY, YEAH, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO SEE. I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S WHAT SOME OF THE OTHER SURROUNDING CITIES HAVE. AND I THINK THERE ARE SOME OF THEM ARE NICE. AND I UNDERSTAND THE CHAIRMAN'S CONCERNS RIGHT, AND WE WOULD LOOK AT THAT WHEN WE'RE REVIEWING THIS, BUT ALSO LIKE IF I WASN'T HERE TOO, RIGHT. LIKE, THEN IT COULD BE SOMEONE ELSE DOING IT RIGHT. SO SOMETIMES YOU WANT TO CONSIDER WHAT YOU WANT TO HAVE IN THE ORDINANCE. WELL, WHERE ARE YOU GOING? NO EXACTLY. BUT I'M JUST SAYING, IF YOU WERE LIKE, HYPOTHETICALLY, ARE YOU GOING. DIRECTOR, WHERE ARE YOU GOING? TWO WEEK NOTICE. HE'S HINTING SOMETHING. YEAH. CAN WE GET. HOW FAR CAN WE? CAN WE GET A STUDY SESSION ON THIS GUY? OR WE CAN. HOW PRESSING IS THIS ITEM? WE CAN. I'D RECOMMEND. LET'S GO THROUGH EVERYTHING HIGH LEVEL AND THEN THERE'S A LOT OF MATERIAL HERE. RIGHT. SO IF YOU FEEL EVEN IF YOU WANT TO GO GOING TO THIS AND IS LIKE REALISTICALLY TO THE CITY, HOW MANY OF THESE PERMITS ARE BEING ASKED FOR? I MEAN, ARE WE JUST HAVING THIS TO COVER OUR BASES AND TO HAVE THIS, THESE, THESE CODES, YOU KNOW, AVAILABLE FOR OUR CITY RESIDENTS? OR ARE WE DOING THIS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE ASKING. I KNOW AT ONE POINT WE WERE HERE TRYING TO FIND ORDINANCE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE CAR COVERS, RIGHT? PEOPLE ARE JUST BUILDING THOSE CAR COVERS. AND WE DECIDED TO MAKE SOMETHING ABOUT IT BECAUSE THERE WAS NO ORDINANCE FOR THOSE PARTICULAR CAR COVERS. WHEN IT COMES TO THIS, DO WE HAVE FELLOW RESIDENTS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN SOMETHING LIKE THIS? AND THAT'S WHY IT'S IN CONVERSATION AT THE MOMENT. YEAH, I THINK IT'S BOTH RESIDENTS WOULD ASK WHAT THEIR OPTIONS WERE AND THEN THEY WOULD FIND OUT WHAT THEY COULD ACTUALLY DO. BUT I THINK ALSO STAFF REALIZING, HEY, WE'RE GETTING ASKED WHAT THEY CAN DO, BUT WHY ARE WE SO RESTRICTIVE HERE? RIGHT? GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION, DIRECTOR. I THINK IT GIVES THE COMMUNITY OPTIONS. YOU KNOW, SO I THINK IT'S A GOOD APPROACH. YEAH AND WE CAN MOVE ON AND COME BACK TO IT. THERE'S A FEW THINGS THAT I RECALL THAT CAME UP WITH LANDSCAPING, NOT HAVING CAR ACCESS, PEDESTRIAN GATES. SO AND THEN MAYBE LANDSCAPE MATERIALS. RIGHT. SURE AND THEN WE COULD ALWAYS IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION WANTS TO CONTINUE THIS TO ANOTHER MEETING, WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT, SO ARE YOU COMFORTABLE MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ONE, NEXT ONE IS A BIG ONE. THE FRONT YARD POOL. I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT HERE IN THIS ITEM, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T THINK WE WOULD WE WOULD GIVE IT JUSTICE. RIGHT? IF WE DIDN'T GIVE IT TIME. YOU KNOW, AND ALLOW ALLOW THIS TO, REALLY SIMMER. YOU KNOW, I'M SUGGESTING WE CONTINUE. YEAH. I'M SUGGESTING WE CONTINUE THIS ITE, HOW DOES EVERYBODY ELSE FEEL OR LEGAL? YES. PUBLIC HEARING? NO. SO JUST MAKE SURE YOU OPEN IT UP FOR SURE. OKAY. CHAIRMAN, ONE OF ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD JUST BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO. SO THERE IS A LOT HERE AND THERE'S DIFFERENT SECTIONS AND CHAPTERS WE ADDRESSED HERE. MAYBE SOME OF THE ONES THAT ARE THE MOST PRESSING ARE RELATED TO THE RESIDENTIAL ESTATE ZONE. AND SO, WITH THE POCKET SEVEN AREA, WE WERE LOOKING TO ADDRESS, CERTAIN AMENDMENTS THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE WHAT RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR. AND I CAN GO INTO THAT IF YOU WANT. YEAH, GO FOR IT. OKAY SO, SO WE ARE GOING TO GO INTO THIS JUST TO GIVE YOU A TASTE OF WHAT'S TO COME. RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDRESSING THAT. RIGHT. THAT COULD BE ME. IT IS MY HOUSE. YOU COULD ESTIMATE HOW LONG THAT CONVERSATION MIGHT BE, WE ARE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT APPEALS AND MINOR MODIFICATION PERMITS. WE DON'T HAVE FINDINGS FOR ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW. RIGHT. SO OKAY, SO RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, ONE OF THE BIG CHANGES WE ARE LOOKING TO DO FOR RESIDENTIAL ESTATE, SO ONE IS TO IT'S ACTUALLY THE SECOND BULLET POINT IS TO ALLOW FOR LODGING. AND SO THERE ARE, PROPERTY OWNERS THAT HAVE, AGRICULTURAL USES. BUT IT'S INTERESTING THAT [01:55:07] THEY ALSO COMBINED LIKE CAMPING OR LODGING DURING SOME OF THE EVENTS, LIKE THE MUSIC FESTIVAL. AND WE THINK THAT'S GREAT, RIGH? AND WE ACTUALLY THINK THAT IS A GOOD THING FOR THE CITY, AND WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WITH THAT WAS MIRROR THE RANCHO ORDINANCE THAT THE COUNTY ADOPTED. SO WITH THE COUNTY ADOPTED IS THAT THEY WOULD ALLOW SPECIFICALLY SPECIAL EVENTS, NOT LODGING. BUT INSOFAR AS THAT, 40% OF THE PROPERTIES UTILIZED FOR GROWING AGRICULTURAL CROPS AND 20% IS PLANTED WITH DATE PALMS. SO THERE'S A LOT OF THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ALREADY HAVE THAT CONDITION WITH DATE PALMS, AND IT KIND OF LENDS ITSELF TO A VERY NICE, YOU KNOW, AGRICULTURAL FEEL WHERE PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO GO THERE AS A DESTINATION. AND SO WE WOULD RECOMMEND, WE'RE RECOMMENDING TO ADD THAT AS A NEW USE. AND THAT RESIDENTIAL ESTATE, ZONE FOR THAT AREA, AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO ADDRESS BEFORE WE WOULD SUBMIT AN APPLICATION TO LAFCO ON, ON THAT, THAT'S PROBABLY THE MORE PRESSING ONE. SOME OF THESE OTHER ITEMS ABOUT, THESE OTHER CHANGES, THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT AS URGENT, SO I'M THINKING, I GUESS LEGAL COUNSEL CAN IS THERE CAN THEY, CARVE IT OUT WITH SOME AMENDMENTS AND THEN RETURN BACK FOR OTHERS? I GUESS WE'D HAVE TO ADVERTISE IT AGAIN, RIGHT? YEAH. SO IF YOU DON'T, IF YOU CONTINUE IT WITHOUT CONTINUING TO A DATE CERTAIN, THEN STAFF IS GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PUBLIC NOTICING REQUIREMENTS OVER AGAIN. YEAH, BUT HE'S ASKING IF I'M NOT IF I'M NOT WRONG HERE, IF WE CAN CUT OUT THE LODGE. RIGHT. THE ESTATE LODGE. THE. YEAH. RESIDENTIAL ESTATE. YEAH. STANDARDS. SO THAT'S WHAT HE WANTS US TO DO. CAN WE DO THAT? WE CAN CUT THAT OUT. YEAH, YOU CAN ADOPT THAT. AND THEN JUST CONTINUE THE REST OF THE ITEM TO ANOTHER DATE. DO THAT OKAY. ALL RIGHT. CAN YOU PUT THAT ITEM BACK UP? YEAH. THANK YOU. VERY NICE. ALL RIGHT. I'D LIKE TO MOTION THAT WE ADOPT THIS ONE PARTICULAR ITEM. RIGHT. OR THIS MODIFICATION OF CHAPTER 17.11. THIS ARE RURAL RANCHO CHAPTER RESIDENTIAL REAL ESTATE. CHAPTER 17.12 S HYPHEN N SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD. CHAPTER 17.1 3GGN GENERAL NEIGHBORHOOD. CHAPTER 17.14 URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD. SORRY ABOUT THAT. GO AHEAD. IT WAS NOT CLEAR. ALL YOU WOULD NEED TO SAY IS THAT WE'D LIKE TO ADOPT THE LODGING PORTION. THE RESIDENTIAL ESTATE, MODIFICATIONS FOR LODGING BECAUSE THE OTHER ONES, THE OTHER TWO ZONES DON'T ADDRESS LODGING. AND WE, WE CAN ADDRESS THAT SEPARATELY. YEAH. OKAY SO WHAT WAS THAT ONE MORE TIME, SO IT'S THE CHAPTERS ADOPTING JUST THE MODIFICATIONS FOR CHAPTER 17.12. OKAY. SO WE'D LIKE TO I'D LIKE TO MOTION THAT WE ADOPT THE MODIFICATIONS FOR RESIDENTIAL ESTATE. CHAPTER 17.12 THE LODGING PERMIT BED BREAKFAST HOTEL AND RESORT IN AN AGRICULTURE SETTING SUBJECT TO AQAP APPROVAL, WHERE 40% OF THE PROPERTY UTILIZED FOR AGRICULTURE CROPS WITH 20% PLANTED WITH DATE PALMS. ASSOCIATED TOURIST RELATED USE SUCH AS CONFERENCE FACILITIES, GIFT SHOP, WELLNESS SPA AND RECREATIONAL FACILITIES MAY BE APPROVED WITH THE CUP R DASH E ZONE ONLY. CAN I GET A SECOND? SECOND CAN I GET A ROLL CALL? YES THAT'S ME. OKAY COMMISSIONER. ALTERNATE COMMISSIONER FONSECA. YES. COMMISSIONER. MURILLO. YES COMMISSIONER. RAMIREZ. YES. AND VICE CHAIR. GONZALEZ. YES. CHAIR. HERNANDEZ. ALL RIGHT. ALL OTHER ITEMS WILL BE MOVED TO A FURTHER DATE. PUBLIC BE NOTIFIED BY THE DIRECTOR. RIGHT. AND I'D LIKE TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 801. ALL RIGHT. DO YOU, THE OTHER THING WE COULD DO AT THE NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING IS HAVE A STUDY SESSION. [02:00:06] YEAH, IF YOU WANT, BEFORE YOU HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON IT. WHATEVER. WHATEVER YOUR PREFERENCE IS. YEAH I THINK WE NEED A PUBLIC STUDY SESSION ON. IT IS HUGE. OKAY, THEN THAT THAT LIKELY WOULD MEAN WE WOULD DO THAT BEFORE THE REGULAR MEETING AT SIX. SO WE START AT 5:00 OKAY. OKAY ALL RIGHT. AWESOME COOL. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT, MOVING OVER TO THE LAST [INFORMATIONAL] ITEM BEFORE OUR CLOSING COMMENTS. ANY INFORMATIONAL, MR. DIRECTOR, NO. NONE FROM FROM STAFF, RIGHT NOW, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'LL HAVE ONE ITEM FOR THE NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. ALL RIGHT. AWESOME. THANK YOU SO MUCH, ANY CLOSING COMMENTS FROM THIS DAIS, COMMISSIONER FONSECA? NO, SIR, COMMISSIONER RAMIREZ. NO COMMISSIONER MURILLO. NO. OH, JUST. I'M SORRY. I DO HAVE A COMMENT. I'M SO SORRY. THANK YOU. TO THE STAFF AND EVERYONE FOR TODAY'S MEETING. IT'S OUR FIRST DAY BACK FROM YOU KNOW, AUGUST. SO WE ALL DID GREAT. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH, STAFF, FOR YOUR HARD WORK. AWESOME. THANK YOU SO MUCH, VICE CHAIR, EVERYTHING GOOD. THANK YOU. AWESOME. AND I GOT TWO THINGS BEFORE WE HEAD OUT, ONE, I KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, IT'S OUR FIRST DAY BACK, AND I KNOW WE'RE A LITTLE EAGER, BUT I JUST WANT TO WANT TO JUST EMPHASIZE ORDER, RIGHT? AND JUST, LIKE, ALL RIGHT. AND GIVE EACH OTHER SPACE RIGHT NOW, LET'S NOT TALK OVER EACH OTHER, SO JUST BE PATIENT. RIGHT. AND SECONDLY, I JUST WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU, MR. DIRECTOR. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GETTING THE WORK PLAN PUSHED, PUSHED ACROSS AND APPROVED, MAN. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I KNOW IT WAS A LITTLE CONTROVERSIAL. BY, YOU KNOW, AND BUT, YOU KNOW, THE MAYOR AND A FEW COUNCIL MEMBERS THOUGHT IT WAS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE AN INCLUSIVE, WORK PLAN, RIGHT, WITH DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS COMING FROM, AND COMING FROM THIS COMMISSION. RIGHT SO IT'S AN OPINION THAT'S, THEY DON'T TAKE LIGHTLY. THEY VALUE YOUR OPINION. RIGHT? THEY VALUE WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY. AND THAT'S FOR ONE THAT'S, SPEAKS TO YOUR ABILITY. RIGHT. AND THOSE WHO OPPOSE IT, PROBABLY DON'T LIKE YOUR OPINION, AND THAT'S HOW I TOOK IT. BUT I FOR ONE, VALUE YOUR OPINION. THAT'S WHY I GIVE YOU GUYS SPACE AND I CALL UPON YOU, BECAUSE I DO VALUE YOUR OPINION, AND THAT'S WHY I WANT TO GIVE YOU ROOM, RIGHT? TO GROW AND TO. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR VISION. RIGHT. I KNOW THIS IS PROBABLY NOT THIS IS YOUR FIRST TIME DOING THIS RIGHT FOR THIS FOR THIS COMMISSION IN PARTICULARLY. RIGHT. SO THAT SAYS A LOT ABOUT YOUR VISION FOR THE CITY. RIGHT. AND I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU FOR HAVING THAT VISION AND DARING AND HAVING THE AUDACITY TO DO THAT. YOU KNOW, CHANGE IS, IS NOT EASY, RIGHT. AND WE KNOW THAT. AND FOR THAT I YOU KNOW, I VALUE YOUR LEADERSHIP AND YOUR STEWARDSHIP OF OUR CITY. RIGHT. AND SO WE'RE TRUSTING ON YOU AND YOUR CAPACITY, ANOTHER THING I WANT TO SAY IS, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE EACH ONE, EACH AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN. YES SIR. AND ALSO TO LASTLY, BEFORE, BEFORE WE GO, PLEASE READ YOUR AGENDA. WHETHER YOU PLAN ON BEING HERE OR NOT, PLEASE READ YOUR AGENDA, AND ALSO KEEP EMAILS TO A MINIMUM. RIGHT. IF WE'RE GOING TO BE SENDING EMAILS, MAKE SURE YOU INCLUDE OUR CITY ATTORNEY. LAST THING WE NEED IS, YOU KNOW, TO SEND EMAILS OUT AND, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE WILL RESPOND. AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU KNOW, WE THERE'S A BROWN ACT VIOLATION. THAT'S THE LAST THING THAT WE WANT AND THE LAST THING THAT WE NEED ON THIS DAIS, BUT THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR THOUGHTS AND YOUR CONSIDERATION. GRACIAS. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.